From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 19:04:54 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B8C116A4CE for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:04:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.seekingfire.com (coyote.seekingfire.com [24.72.10.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29DCE43D1F for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:04:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from tillman@seekingfire.com) Received: by mail.seekingfire.com (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9BF343AF; Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:04:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 13:04:53 -0600 From: Tillman Hodgson To: Matthias Schuendehuette Message-ID: <20041115190453.GG2439@seekingfire.com> References: <5f67a8c4041114213657cdb434@mail.gmail.com> <5f67a8c404111423317b721cfe@mail.gmail.com> <1100539526.31778.18.camel@zappa.Chelsea-Ct.Org> <200411151933.37431.msch@snafu.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200411151933.37431.msch@snafu.de> X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-GPG-Key-ID: 828AFC7B X-GPG-Fingerprint: 5584 14BA C9EB 1524 0E68 F543 0F0A 7FBC 828A FC7B X-GPG-Key: http://www.seekingfire.com/personal/gpg_key.asc X-Urban-Legend: There is lots of hidden information in headers X-Tillman-rules: yes he does User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Zaphod Beeblebrox cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: gvinum again? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:04:54 -0000 On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 07:33:36PM +0100, Matthias Schuendehuette wrote: > Am Montag, 15. November 2004 18:25 schrieb Paul Mather: > > [...] > > I don't know if growfs is 100% robust enough yet to provide the other > > important ingredient to a true LVM storage management system a la the > > logical volume manager on AIX or AdvFS on Tru64, say. > > Yes, it is. I use (g)vinum primarily as a LVM with concat plexes on > ProLiant Servers with SmartRAID-Controllers, so mirroring and/or RAID5 > is done in hardware. > > The extension of filesystems on concat plexes works (simply) as > advertised... :-) At least *I* had no problems so far. I can also claim lots of positive experiences with this, though mostly on 4.X systems (I've only recnetly started to use 5.X systems on more than a test machine). In my case, I growfs mirrored volumes. I've also deleted unused volumes (mirrored), moved their subdisks over to another volume to increase available free space and then run growfs to take advantage of the new space. It's been problem free for me, and I found myself taking advantage of volume management to solve disk management issues (like user home directories). -T -- "Robert Metcalf [the inventor of Ethernet] says that if something comes along to replace Ethernet, it will be called ``Ethernet'', so therefore Ethernet will never die. Unix has already undergone several such transformations." -- Ken Thompson