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NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.991,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.63)[ip: (-9.02), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.18), asn: 15169(-1.89), country: US(-0.08)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Filesystems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:49:23 -0000 On 22/01/2019 15:34, Borja Marcos wrote: > >> As you say its quite confusing, so hope that clarifies? > I think so, I was trying to avoid confusion for newcomers, not intending to be fastidious. The JBOD term is ambiguous. This stuff drove me mad some time ago, not > to mention the puzzled faces of the Dell salesmen when I said “EGGS, BACON, RAID, RAID, RAID, I DON’T LIKE RAID!” ;) > > They thought I was nuts rejecting a “hardware” RAID. And in some cases they almost refuse to sell servers with plain HBAs. > Oh had that too, they literally had no clue ;-)     Regards     Steve