From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 11 21:45:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB14937B406 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 21:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EA2C6A90F; Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:15:13 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:15:13 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Kastaki Cc: Claudiu Attila Balogh , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: MODEM & THE COMPLETE FREEBSD Message-ID: <20011012141513.A32786@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <003401c15122$c4b63d20$2260ff3e@computer> <000901c1519c$a7845460$0901a8c0@claus> <014201c15260$6bf15280$5560ff3e@computer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <014201c15260$6bf15280$5560ff3e@computer>; from kastaki@ganbert.com on Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 03:24:21PM +0100 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 11 October 2001 at 15:24:21 +0100, Kastaki wrote: > Thanks......after a long struggle, the modem is now up and running....it is > a good learning experience, which I can't say The Complete FreeBSD was - I > believe that book is a waste of money. > The first few chapters are good in installing the OS, but the author needs > to understand that most readers (like me) are coming from other platforms. > He touched Modems, but never really explained anything about setting them > up. He never mentioned that Internal WinModems can not be used. Moving on > the DNS, he set up a network and very slightly explained how to setup the > named daemon - but never really explained how to set it up in > general. There's a book on setting up named "in general", "DNS and BIND", http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/dns4/desc.html . It's 622 pages long. Would you have bought "The Complete FreeBSD" if it had been 600 pages longer and correspondingly more expensive? > Again he does the same thing with Samba "Using Samba", http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba/, 413 pages. > and Apache. "Apache: The definitive guide", http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/apache2/. > This book was a waste of time, and I am resorting to either asking > questions on this mailing list, You seem to like doing things in an unorthodox manner. From the charter for this mailing list, which you received when you subscribed: We cover any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere, including: independent learning and problem solving techniques, finding and using resources and asking for help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. > I am enjoying myself, but I just feel I want to catch up with > everyone else on this mailing list, and that this book has slowed me > down massively. Maybe you can point to how? I believe that, with the exception of not mentioning "win" modems, your claims are unfounded. What particular problems with the book slowed you down? > I still like to know a simple fact - why is it impossible for > FreeBSD to work with Internal Modems (especially WinModems). It isn't. But I have promised not to answer technical questions on this mailing list. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message