Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2018 12:22:49 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> Cc: Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>, FreeBSD Release Engineering Team <re@freebsd.org>, "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>, "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Lost my serial console! :-) Message-ID: <CANCZdfqWFzNFaCug2aTGAkZFodzfeKnyWQ5qq8cDFc-V2RZO6w@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <818D581C-D2AE-4CC9-B71F-A426B8D5D003@yahoo.com> References: <201811212303.wALN3Vv9074328@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <820fac5d-dc79-64ca-33ac-7604157db423@denninger.net> <7FF4BE2B-DD9C-47AE-9775-7CBFE9813C6F@yahoo.com> <1A96848B-1B6B-4F06-9377-C702DDE4A403@yahoo.com> <CANCZdfrYs3ABXK9_iOman%2BGJNtQ0vzk7hx3AeuWe4fSFN2BJGA@mail.gmail.com> <818D581C-D2AE-4CC9-B71F-A426B8D5D003@yahoo.com>
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On Thu, Nov 22, 2018, 12:01 PM Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com wrote: > On 2018-Nov-22, at 09:45, Warner Losh <imp at bsdimp.com> wrote: > > > > >> On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 9:32 AM Mark Millard via freebsd-arm < > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org> wrote: > >> On 2018-Nov-22, at 08:14, Mark Millard <marklmi at yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> > On 2018-Nov-22, at 03:27, Karl Denninger <karl at denninger.net> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> On 11/21/2018 17:03, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> >>>> On 11/20/2018 09:57, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >> >>>> ..... > >> >>>>>> Lots.? I have several 3Bs, one 3B+ (since that's the current > model), and > >> >>>>>> a passel of 2s. :-)? The 2s are fine but I'm building 11.STABLE > for > >> >>>>>> those.? Can't for the 3s, as the code to run those isn't in 11. > >> >>>>> Ok which of PI3B or PI3B+ or is it both that you are having > >> >>>>> serial console issues on? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Also can you try: > >> >>>>> > http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/12.0/FreeBSD-12.0-RC1-arm64-aarch64-RPI3.img.xz > >> >>>>> on both boards and report success/failure/problems? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Thanks, > >> >>>> RC1 boots on both and I have a serial console on both.? > >> >>> Thank you for the testing, I am ccing this reply to RE@ so they > >> >>> know we have at least 1 data point that says we can boot our > >> >>> release canadate image on both a RPI3B and RPI3B+, > >> >>> that is valuable data. > >> >> One note -- there is a complaint about umodem.ko missing dependencies > >> >> right at the top of the kernel messages on boot and indeed it does > not > >> >> load out of the loader.conf entry -- but if I load it by hand once > the > >> >> system is up (or out of /etc/rc.local, etc) it works. So while it > does > >> >> indeed boot I wouldn't call it completely "working" (at least not if > you > >> >> need the umodem kernel module!) > >> >> > >> >> This happens to impact me on these devices (I have a USB device that > >> >> "appears" as a serial modem).... it's been broken for a while on > >> >> -CURRENT, but I don't know exactly *when* it broke. On the Pi2 under > >> >> 11-Stable it hasn't been a problem. > >> > > >> > Looking on the web I see an example from -r335317 : > >> > > >> > FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #0 r335317: Mon Jun 18 17:37:04 UTC 2018 > >> > root@releng3.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC > arm64 > >> > FreeBSD clang version 6.0.0 (tags/RELEASE_600/final 326565) (based on > LLVM 6.0.0) > >> > WARNING: WITNESS option enabled, expect reduced performance. > >> > VT: init without driver. > >> > KLD file umodem.ko is missing dependencies > >> > KLD file if_run.ko is missing dependencies > >> > > >> > But if I remove umodem.ko being the specific > >> > example there is more --and some notes that > >> > might provide a workaround . . . > >> > > >> > There are examples around of folks getting the type of message for > >> > zfs.ko , where the solution was to force /boot/kernel/opensolaris.ko > >> > to load ahead of time instead of depending on it automatically > >> > happening. -r317181 was an example, quoting: > >> > > >> > QUOTE > >> > With a slimmed down kernel config, I can load zfs.ko and boot the > kernel > >> > BUT opensolaris is not loaded and I get at kernel boot: > >> > > >> > OK load zfs > >> > /boot/kernel/zfs.ko text=0x9d980 text=0xe0480 data=0x214c8+0x9eb78 > >> > syms=[0x8+0x1d6a0+0x8+0x187bd] > >> > OK boot > >> > Booting... > >> > KDB: debugger backends: ddb > >> > KDB: current backend: ddb > >> > Copyright (c) 1992-2017 The FreeBSD Project. > >> > Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, > 1994 > >> > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > >> > FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. > >> > FreeBSD 12.0-CURRENT #0 r317181M: Sun May 14 14:01:52 CEST 2017 > >> > [hidden email]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NORQUAY arm64 > >> > FreeBSD clang version 4.0.0 (tags/RELEASE_400/final 297347) (based on > >> > LLVM 4.0.0) > >> > VT: init without driver. > >> > KLD file zfs.ko is missing dependencies > >> > END QUOTE > >> > > >> > and: > >> > > >> > QUOTE > >> > If I load opensolaris manually, I can mount My root filesystem from > zfs > >> > > >> > OK load opensolaris > >> > /boot/kernel/opensolaris.ko text=0x19d8 text=0xda0 > data=0x10178+0x125b8 > >> > syms=[0x8+0x1020+0x8+0x8ca] > >> > OK boot -s > >> > Booting... > >> > . . . > >> > END QUOTE > >> > > >> > That does suggest that there may be a workaround of explicitly > >> > loading the modules that umodem.ko requires instead of depending > >> > on implicit loading. This is true even if the person needed to > >> > do a kldxref and at the time it might have worked after that. > >> > > >> > (In the current context having an up to date linker.hints file > >> > is known to be insufficient. Back then I'm unsure of the > >> > status. But the procedure may either anyway.) > >> > > >> > The quotes are from: > >> > > >> > > http://freebsd.1045724.x6.nabble.com/Re-DTB-provided-by-loader-efi-from-head-r317181-on-pine64-smashed-by-zfs-ko-td6185085.html > >> > > >> > All the examples I'm referring to are arm64 in 2017 or later. > >> > Over such a range I've not run into a non-arm64 example. > >> > > >> > (I Did find old FreeBSD 9 missing-dependencies reports and > >> > powerpc reports from years before that range. I ignored these.) > >> > >> > >> I just tested and: > >> > >> hw.usb.template=3 > >> # ucom is not automatically being loaded when umodem is loaded at boot. > >> ucom_load="YES" > >> umodem_load="YES" > >> > >> in /boot/loader.conf worked: no more message about umodem.ko > >> missing dependencies. > >> > >> It looks like 12.x should have a note about amd64 requiring > >> such completeness in what is listed in /boot/loader.conf > >> or what is types at the loader prompts. (Presuming that this > >> is not fixed before 12.0-RELEASE .) > > > > Better to add the proper module dependency rather than this half A***ED > workaround, don't you think? > > Did I do something to justify that public disrepect > in the tone of your reply? > > I'll note that after booting, without preloading > ucom.ko at all, "kldload umodem" works fine and > implicitly loads ucom.ko just fine. So some form > of module dependency would seem to already be > in place. (This has been noted in past reports > on the lists.) > > The indirection-problem is only at boot time via using > /boot/loader.conf --not later. > Ah. We should try to fix that bug then. I've been distracted or I'd have jumped on this sooner. Warner > Warner > >> I greatly doubt that the issue is specific to umodem.ko and > >> what it requires to also be loaded. (Note the if_run.ko > >> example that was in materials that I quoted and the > >> zfs.ko example that suggested the workaround.) > >> > > > > > > > === > Mark Millard > marklmi at yahoo.com > ( dsl-only.net went > away in early 2018-Mar) > >
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