From owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 12:29:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0967D10A805B; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:29:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vterziev@gvcgroup.com) Received: from mgate03.itsfogo.com (mgate03.itsfogo.com [195.72.134.149]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.itsfogo.com", Issuer "Thawte RSA CA 2018" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83C6693A9E; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:29:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vterziev@gvcgroup.com) From: Vladimir Terziev To: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" CC: Brooks Davis , Eugene Grosbein Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Thread-Topic: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Thread-Index: AQHUW1z8oQomlAn8e0yTY1T+r3ZBB6UOd46AgABnmwA= Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 12:13:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20181003210516.GA71565@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> <45c44128-85cb-5b4c-3af3-cbdf1560c9be@grosbein.net> In-Reply-To: <45c44128-85cb-5b4c-3af3-cbdf1560c9be@grosbein.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) x-originating-ip: [10.138.239.10] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 12:29:01 -0000 I also call for keeping of the ste(4) driver. We use several 4-head D-Link DFE-580TX cards. Removing their support would = incur serious expenses for us for replacement hardware. > On 4 Oct 2018, at 09:03, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >=20 > 04.10.2018 4:05, Brooks Davis wrote: >=20 >>>>> Please direct replies to freebsd-arch <<< >>=20 >> FCP-01010 (https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/blob/master/fcp-0101.md) >> outlines a plan to deprecate most 10/100 Ethernet drivers in FreeBSD 12 >> and remove them in FreeBSD 13 to reduce the burden of maintaining and >> improving the network stack. We have discussed this within the >> core team and intend to move forward as proposed. We are solictiting >> feedback on the list of drivers to be excepted from removal. >>=20 >> The current list of drivers slated for REMOVAL is: >>=20 >> ae, bfe, bm, cs, dme, ed, ep, ex, fe, pcn, rl, sf, smc, sn, >> ste, tl, tx, txp, vx, wb, xe >>=20 >> The current list of drivers that will STAY in the tree is: >>=20 >> dc, ffec, fxpl, hme, le, sis, vr, xl >=20 > "fxpl" should have been "fxp" here, I suppose. >=20 > While I have no objection for general direction, I have doubts about remo= val of ste(4) and especially rl(4). > These are cheap 100Mbit VERY popular NICs sold in enourmous values in cer= tain markets > by vendors like D-Link and TP-Link using various trade names. >=20 > Lack of support for such popular 100M cards won't be good for FreeBSD, I = suppose. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-net-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"