From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Jul 29 2:42:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from dyson.iquest.net. (iq-ind-dns003-90.iquest.net [198.70.149.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A9615085 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:42:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from toor@dyson.iquest.net) Received: (from toor@localhost) by dyson.iquest.net. (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA57255; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:40:32 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from toor) Message-Id: <199907290940.EAA57255@dyson.iquest.net.> Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?! In-Reply-To: from Radu-Cristian FOTESCU at "Jul 26, 1999 04:34:19 pm" To: rfotescu@idsrom.com (Radu-Cristian FOTESCU) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 04:40:32 -0500 (EST) Cc: seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org ('Seth'), freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG ('freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG') Reply-To: dyson@dyson.iquest.net From: "John S. Dyson" Reply-To: dyson@iquest.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Radu-Cristian FOTESCU said: > > I'm trying to adapt to FreeBSD addicts philosophy 'cause I'm not satisfied > with the way Linux evolves. But I'm coming from Linux, and I develop for > Win32 [hey! I have to live, ok?], so it _might_ be that I see things > somewhat differently. > > Maybe you should _try_ to see things from an "outsider" point of view and > see which are the weak points of FreeBSD propaganda. > Opinion: When leaving the FreeBSD project, and looking from the outside inward, I became aware of some serious problems with the project that I had never previously been aware of. In some cases, problems perceived as 'minor' when I was in core became major in reality, and some 'serious' problems became non-issues for the general user. At this point, I have virtually no time to work on FreeBSD (regrettably), but each of us has to spend time in ways to be advantageous for the contributor or developer. Also, I have full freedom as to which OS to run, and am NOT known to lock myself in to a single solution being the answer to every problem. As it is today, there is little rational reason (except in exceptional cases) to migrate from FreeBSD to Linux, yet relatively more often, moving existing work from Linux to FreeBSD could be advantageous. The *only* strategic advantage for Linux that seems to be hard for FreeBSD to overcome is the destructively strong herding (bandwagon) instinct. FreeBSD still doesn't seem to have the 'magic' that triggers that instinct, and for that reason, it is wonderful that FreeBSD has done so well, given the lack of the frothing-at-the-mouth or pseudo-relgious advocates. Given the criteria of minimal maintenence requirements, easier porting, lots of software already ported, and very good stability, I have found that of the two fairly popular free U**X clones, and the non-free, but source available U**X clone, that FreeBSD still wins in the unix utility and server box type application. The biggest argument against FreeBSD is that it has less effective SMP than the source-available, but NON-free U**X clone (the other predominant FREE U**X clone doesn't effectively have SMP at all yet -- so for that, it is a non-issue.) -- John | Never try to teach a pig to sing, dyson@iquest.net | it makes one look stupid jdyson@nc.com | and it irritates the pig. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message