From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Nov 3 14:03:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807D91B5FC5 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 14:03:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 475d1s6MpGz49yV for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2019 14:03:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) From: "@lbutlr" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Omg upgrade wants to install MySQL Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 07:03:28 -0700 References: <4B1C9CF4-9ACF-429A-B060-A8A7DA41C5FF@kreme.com> <2f7865de-e8be-002e-b9a1-4a409e2e3da1@grosbein.net> To: FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <2f7865de-e8be-002e-b9a1-4a409e2e3da1@grosbein.net> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3601.0.10) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 475d1s6MpGz49yV X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of kremels@kreme.com designates 65.121.55.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=kremels@kreme.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.02 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_SPACES(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; MISSING_MIME_VERSION(2.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[kreme.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.93)[-0.926,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.20)[ip: (-0.73), ipnet: 65.112.0.0/12(-0.20), asn: 209(-0.02), country: US(-0.05)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:209, ipnet:65.112.0.0/12, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[42.55.121.65.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2019 14:03:30 -0000 On 02 Nov 2019, at 20:29, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 03.11.2019 9:20, @lbutlr wrote: >=20 >> On 02 Nov 2019, at 19:35, Eugene Grosbein wrote: >>> I prefer third option. Sometimes it is handy to "pkg lock" packages = you installed from ports buiklt with non-default options, too. >>=20 >> If I could tell which pkg install is going to install MySQL and libX = stuff I would lock those, but I Dion=E2=80=99t see anyway to check that. >=20 > You need to lock MariaDB. MariaDB *is* locked. Both client and server. Pkg update was still going = to install MySQL. >> And it does seem odd that pkg is still assuming MySQL and desktop = FreeBSD. >> I know of many 120 FreeBSD servers and not one has a GUI desktop. >> I mean, I am sure they exist, but they must be a pretty tiny sliver. >=20 > First, it is NOT pkg assuming anything. Package repository has = packages built from ports with their *default* options > and pkg merely uses them. Fine. Ports assuming MySQL. > Second, support of X headers/formats/libraries does not assume = "desktop" FreeBSD > and does not install any graphical environment but generally only some = small headers or libs, > not even libX11 not to mention heavy window managers or desktop = environment. A whole lot of X11 cruft gets installed if you do not go through and = disable X11. A LOT. So there is some assumption in the defaults that = there will be a desktop environment, yes.