From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 15:01:35 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD56816A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:01:35 +0000 (GMT) Received: from internet.potentialtech.com (h-66-167-251-6.phlapafg.covad.net [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB1343D53 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:01:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from working.potentialtech.com (pa-plum-cmts1e-68-68-113-64.pittpa.adelphia.net [68.68.113.64]) by internet.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 137DA69A3F; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:01:22 -0400 From: Bill Moran To: Barbish3@adelphia.net Message-Id: <20040731110122.44692b23.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20040730162954.P1557@c3po.barnesos.net> Organization: Potential Technologies X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.9) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: jbarnes@c3po.barnesos.net cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: jonc@chen.org.nz Subject: Re: safe mode for kernel.old X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:01:36 -0000 "JJB" wrote: > I think you have missed some very important details. In 4.x releases > when you do a kernel compile the system automatically renames the > current kernel to kernel.old for you. There is also a kernel.generic > which is always there. > > In 5.x versions the whole kernel boot process was replaced with new > method and the auto rename of the kernel no longer happens on a > recompile and there is no kernel.generic module available. Whoever > added the new boot process to 5.x did real poor job of integrating > the new pirated boot code into Freebsd. This should be reported as > a bug by everybody who wants the old kernel rename process added > back into FreeBSD. What are you talking about? I did a cvsup/make kernel process just a week ago on a 5.1 machine, and the 5.2 kernel refused to work with the network card. Lucky for me, kernel.old was in the boot directory, and I was able to move it back over kernel. Yes, the process and everything is different, but the basic fallback device is still there. > > Submit Bug report. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jason > Barnes > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:31 PM > To: Jonathan Chen > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: safe mode for kernel.old > > On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 03:50:40PM -0700, Jason Barnes wrote: > > > > > > Wow -- this is weird, but when I try that the machine locks > up > > > right after loading the old kernel, after the little -/|\ series > finishes. > > > Additionally, safe mode and single-user mode are distinct. Is > there a > > > boot -safe that will boot into SAFE mode? > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Unlike Windows, there is no SAFE mode. Single user mode is about > as > > safe as it will get. > > Then what's the safe mode in the boot screen in 5.2.1, and > how is > it different than single user mode? Thanks for your patience with > me on > this issue. > > - Jason > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com