From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Nov 29 15:20:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mail5.speakeasy.net (mail5.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CFBC37B419 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18878 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2001 23:20:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Nov 2001 23:20:20 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15366.47797.671224.533868@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:20:07 -0800 (PST) From: John Baldwin To: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: Feeding the Troll (Was: freebsd as a desktop ?) Cc: Eric Melville , Cc: Eric Melville , Anthony Atkielski , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, Giorgos Keramidas Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29-Nov-01 Mike Meyer wrote: > John Baldwin types: >> On 29-Nov-01 Mike Meyer wrote: >> > Eric Melville types: >> >> This is an excellent point which the most everyone seems to miss these >> >> days. I find windows very difficult to use as a desktop. Too much >> >> clicking, >> >> and not enough tools. So, for windows being user-friendly, I am a user >> >> too, >> >> and I don't find it friendly at all. >> > >> > Quite correct. Let's take a very simple but very common task - moving >> > the focus to another window. The GOMS measure for that in ratpoison is >> > 1.95 seconds; with Windows I believe it comes out to 3.45 seconds, >> > meaning using Windows is over 50% slower than ratpoison for that very >> > common operation. Of course, if there's some other way to move the >> > focus other than move your hand to the mouse, point at the window and >> > click on it, those calculations will be off. >> >> Alt-Tab cycles through windows. It may be off by default though. > > That one's hard to calculate, because you don't know how many windows > you'll have to go through. On my desktop, it could be as low as 1.55 > seconds, or as high as 10.85 seconds. I'd call it 6.2 seconds as an > average, meaning it's much worse than any of the other alternatives. You must hit Alt-Tab slow. :) You can just bang on it real fast until the window you want is highlighted. :) For me that is faster than using the mouse since I'm used to using the keyboard so much. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message