From owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 1 19:55:18 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D091065677 for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:55:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5538FC1C for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 19:55:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from whizzter@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so9842ywe.13 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:55:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=z8Dr5jT2YCxxO1v5+EX+D0VjeJ2uXtCWRIXeaOUPFZs=; b=EwPy+zGPd6kIWpWpqlbirbQh/Aqs7ps+7dQJJ7Su74SueY5CuF4k2p6YCezeEKZP/o gpVOrMXoe8K/IIIlAOKq9nPRE5nNzr4Bk2UfBj5eCPeNRTweQgVz3hBXq2dqEj2BR8jC 4WJW2MXL8hCutKi9SMKVekoIF5qNQodTFwdGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Xi/Y+TeLTiakdTzfjf9tj/hRkrW17Xwuh60nD2Jo0/mVpoh9+iMECHu6YTMqizE4rX gipvVLJGSupbg/AEYmQ6R8PoFUewQEJOeTTDsoj8kfvaE6UR/ZRBCCfGgU8NkTI+Jlnw y/JQMiFhPW6DT9KvwRg9gtcEcz9oioosVlduQ= Received: by 10.103.228.15 with SMTP id f15mr3178219mur.14.1214942116081; Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.214.9 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:55:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <436c7eda0807011255n4d940ca5s9ee1eefae49b4dd5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 21:55:16 +0200 From: "Jonas Lund" To: "Jeremy Chadwick" In-Reply-To: <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <486450DB.4000907@dannysplace.net> <20080627040545.GA21856@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <436c7eda0807010246u4c22b32bic67bf06db1728583@mail.gmail.com> <20080701124806.GA68799@eos.sc1.parodius.com> Cc: Danny Carroll , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: new server motherboard with SATA II X-BeenThere: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion of FreeBSD hardware List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2008 19:55:18 -0000 Thanks for the great overview/info. I guess i can hope that my disk will tell me something. Otherwise i really hope that my raid1-setup will save me (and a future me that got his ass off the couch fixing proper offsite backups). > Secondly, I am in no way shape or form "ATA bashing". SCSI has a better > overall protocol (design and transport), but it's (unjustifiably) more > expensive, and remains such even after all these years. I actually > *like* SATA, and SAS as well. The part about bashing was not directed at you, just a general note to get those extra mails out of the way. Sorry if it came out wrong. I totally agree about the price being insane. Some people swear by SCSI usually having better quality parts, no idea on how much that corresponds to the truth tho. / Jonas Lund