From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 9 07:46:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A07716A49E; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:46:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8987D43D73; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 07:46:12 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id k897jjDW017989; Sat, 9 Sep 2006 08:45:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk from=m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk; sender-id=softfail; spf=softfail X-SenderID: Sendmail Sender-ID Filter v0.2.14 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk k897jjDW017989 Message-ID: <45027123.8000004@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:45:39 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.5 (X11/20060801) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Marc G. 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Fournier wrote: =20 > Reported devices right now doesn't work on the other BSDs, as apparentl= y > we are the only one that has a pciconf command :( But, here is a > sampling of systems information for those coming in from KR (that is > Korea, right?): >=20 > operating_system | release | architecture | count > ------------------+-------------------+--------------+------- > DragonFly | 1.6.0-RELEASE | amd64 | 17 > DragonFly | 1.0A-RELEASE | i386 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.1-Stable | i386 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 16 > DragonFly | 1.1-Stable | amd64 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.3.7-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.4.0-RELEASE | amd64 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.4.0-RELEASE | i386 | 12 > DragonFly | 1.7.0-DEVELOPMENT | i386 | 11 > DragonFly | 1.0A-RELEASE | amd64 | 10 > DragonFly | 1.5.3-DEVELOPMENT | amd64 | 9 > DragonFly | 1.6.0-RELEASE | i386 | 9 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | macppc | 4 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | zaurus | 4 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | luna88k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | mac68k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | mac68k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | mvme88k | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | mac68k | 3 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | macppc | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | vax | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | sparc | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.4 | cats | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | i386 | 3 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | i386 | 3 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | mmeye | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.5 | sparc64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | cats | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | sparc64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | hppa | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | cats | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | armish | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | alpha | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | hppa | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | macppc | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.7 | mac68k | 2 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | shark | 2 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | sgi | 2 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | evbsh5 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.99.18 | i386 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.99.20 | evbsh3 | 2 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | i386 | 2 > NetBSD | 4.0_BETA | evbsh3 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | i386 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | cats | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | armish | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.7 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | sgi | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.4 | amd64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | luna88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.5 | mvme88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | amd64 | 2 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | luna88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | amd64 | 2 > NetBSD | 2.0.3 | algor | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.3 | luna88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.6 | zaurus | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.7 | vax | 2 > NetBSD | 2.0.3 | prep | 2 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC1 | amd64 | 2 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC3 | algor | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.4 | mvme88k | 2 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | sparc64 | 2 > NetBSD | 4.99.1 | next68k | 1 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | sparc | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.13 | sbmips | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.8 | amd64 | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.9 | vax | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | amd64 | 1 > NetBSD | 3.0_RC6 | sandpoint | 1 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | vax | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.13 | playstation2 | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.22 | hpcarm | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.5 | luna88k | 1 > OpenBSD | 4.0 | alpha | 1 > NetBSD | 2.0.3 | ews4800mips | 1 > NetBSD | 3.1_RC2 | cats | 1 > NetBSD | 2.1_STABLE | cats | 1 > NetBSD | 3.99.13 | pmppc | 1 > NetBSD | 3.0.1 | sgimips | 1 > OpenBSD | 3.2 | mvme88k | 1 >=20 > So if they are playing games, they are sure going to an awful lot of > trouble to do it ... Interesting. The 300.bsdstats script seems to except OpenBSD and NetBSD from the device reporting stuff, but not DFly. That does look extremely consistent with the known supported platforms and versions of the various BSDs. As you say, if it is someone playing games, then they have gone to a great deal of trouble to invent realistic= data. On the other hand, if it is real, and since it seems to come from a single IP so we can assume it's all from one project or corporate entit= y, then it sounds like a very interesting project I'd like to hear more abou= t, and I'm sure that the advocacy@ crowd would love to present as a 'BSD Success Story' Apropos nothing else though -- can you add 'operating_system' columns along side the 'release' columns on the 'Releases' page. Counting OpenBSD 4.0 along with FreeBSD 4.0 doesn't make a whole lot of sense. 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