From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 14:27:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9549C4C for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:27:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555668FC0A for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:27:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id k10so5022715iea.13 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:27:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=783D+zS/VTXpc6ZpnJAVLGjkWBKbJQDR/psApERFamw=; b=iiU/6dI1J5FY+EPxYYy418qS3c67tyDnXOjoGJxozaSuqnrDPDVMt8EmP9pBTMyxPT edrikNxR4SGcB3l3jk6WU2IBT9t4yEDgvAX6OCtv4t1MRwrzf7lpuq6RKuGZv0ytiqcW VK5BcP98yPOqB5sPflkerXmu73DRby57lk/t4g49LCdSTARzbXMaI/8xTwcYeKOa+ANW L5Iz4DHNVPyi5m7le31jVbhmXGv0jxafcNJ1WxD6XdINUcihtab5YJbuw0n68cXzLE6R yU0rp/ePEfJH1pKP6QhJoGeDcNZf4vr7vMcT71ZZdibR2yt/m/Z8nC/ITXIpCMy1AHE5 kZ5g== Received: by 10.50.213.1 with SMTP id no1mr2306880igc.64.1351261638665; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 63.imp.bsdimp.com (50-78-194-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.78.194.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id uj6sm1311455igb.4.2012.10.26.07.27.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 07:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Warner Losh Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20121026062356.3143A58094@chaos.jnpr.net> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:27:06 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <37989A40-4DBD-48C8-BD65-16C7C41454B6@bsdimp.com> References: <201210020750.23358.jhb@freebsd.org> <201210021037.27762.jhb@freebsd.org> <127FA63D-8EEE-4616-AE1E-C39469DDCC6A@xcllnt.net> <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net> <20121025225353.86DA658094@chaos.jnpr.net> <20121026050130.GL35915@deviant.kiev.zoral.com.ua> <20121026062356.3143A58094@chaos.jnpr.net> To: "Simon J. Gerraty" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk4HFt9xuvd6qOcuTg5FxcJKNReYbcbpvYJ3BRpvvTSE9tfQryh6z9zNDuZiVvfoczmDhRz Cc: Konstantin Belousov , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:27:20 -0000 On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:23 AM, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: >> In particular, why cannot the ':L' and ':U' support be added ? >=20 > Because they already exist - with different meanings. > They were added to NetBSD make over 10 years ago, from the OSF version > of pmake. And we've had the :U and :L for a similar period of time as well. = Arguing age here is an interesting historical footnote, but not a = compelling argument to justify the pain to our users. > In several areas the behavior of bmake has been changed to make it a > drop in replacement for FreeBSD, but the above (not used at all in the > FreeBSD base) are easier dealt with the other way. The :tl and :tu > equivalents were added to FreeBSD make a while back to ease the > transition. Why can't there be a make target that turns them on in FreeBSD compat = mode. You could then just drop those into bsd.port.mk and be done with = it? We already do this with the posix target, so there's precedent for = it. I know you've objected to this as ugly, but as I pointed out when I = mentioned it before, I think this is less ugly and less work and would = offer a smoother transition than forcing all the scripts to change. Warner