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Date:      Fri, 19 Jan 2018 10:38:58 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
To:        Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>
Cc:        "Conrad E. Meyer" <cem@freebsd.org>, Eric van Gyzen <eric@vangyzen.net>, src-committers <src-committers@freebsd.org>, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r327354 - head/sys/vm
Message-ID:  <201801191838.w0JIcwdE073370@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfosA5%2BU=7vsULp2fQy_=e7TTZ5Qs2BNtHuONONg_Qdegw@mail.gmail.com>

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> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Conrad Meyer <cem@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Eric van Gyzen <eric@vangyzen.net>
> > wrote:
> > > On 01/17/2018 16:40, Gleb Smirnoff wrote:
> > >> Yeah, style is sacred, but is there a single person on Earth who would
> > >> not agree that moving variables from smaller blocks to function block
> > >> reduces readability of the code?
> > >
> > > I agree that it reduces the readability.  Not only that, it also
> > > encourages real bugs by allowing access to the variable when it does not
> > > make sense.
> >
> > I think the right way to propose this kind of policy change is to get
> > agreement on how style(9) should be modified ? not arbitrarily go
> > against style(9) in some files.  The proposed change may be somewhat
> > contentious and it might be a good exercise to go through the FreeBSD
> > Community Process.
> >
> > I might separate these two concerns:
> >
> > 1. Allowing local / block scoped variables
> > 2. Allowing C99 for loop initial declarations
> >
> > But I could see the argument that (2) is just a boring subset of (1).
> >
> 
> Tell me again where #1/#2 are disallowed? I can't seem to find that in
> style(9), except by a weak example of there being no examples of #1 or #2.

I think everyone glossed over:

     Parts of a for loop may be left empty.  Do not put declarations inside
     blocks unless the routine is unusually complicated.

Perhaps that second sentence should be extracted into a paragraph of its own?
This does sound very much like what you said that you do in another reply
in this thread.

> Warner
-- 
Rod Grimes                                                 rgrimes@freebsd.org



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