From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 14 14:24:17 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A81901065670 for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 14:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: from mired.org (five.mired.org [66.92.153.75]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342538FC2B for ; Wed, 14 May 2008 14:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 43060 invoked from network); 14 May 2008 10:24:43 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO mbook.local) (192.168.195.192) by 0 with SMTP; 14 May 2008 10:24:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 10:24:10 -0400 From: Mike Meyer To: Peter Jeremy Message-ID: <20080514102410.639f16ef@mbook.local> In-Reply-To: <20080514071728.GP64804@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <9FC19AC2-DAD8-418C-8B9C-F129DEC58CEF@gmail.com> <15336578.20080512123806@mail.ru> <200805121153.00809.jonathan+freebsd-hackers@hst.org.za> <1663320218.20080512223531@mail.ru> <20080512152430.3720683e@mbook.local> <2117635718.20080513154406@mail.ru> <20080513121452.GA70860@eos.sc1.parodius.com> <20080513154137.GA28842@pix.net> <482A02CD.7040308@mansionfamily.plus.com> <20080514071728.GP64804@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Organization: Meyer Consulting X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i386-apple-darwin9.2.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:42:20 +0000 Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, James Mansion Subject: Re: BDB corrupt X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:24:17 -0000 On Wed, 14 May 2008 17:17:28 +1000 Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2008-May-13 22:06:21 +0100, James Mansion wrote: > >And is the objection to SQL such the sqlite is really out of the running? > > There is no specific objection to SQL. There is a general objection > to adding more utilities to the base system unless a _very_ good case > can be made for including them. So far, no-one has made a compelling > reason to include SQLite (or other SQL engine) into the base system. Just out of curiosity - there seems to be an unspoken assumption that the ports system can only use tools that are part of the base system. But this is clearly false - the ports system currently includes a couple of directories full of software that's not in the base system. Adding compiled code to those tools would mean that installing the ports system gets a bit more complex - you have to run "make install" after extracting the tarball. Is that so bad it's not going to happen?