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Date:      Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:53:16 +0300
From:      Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@freebsd.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, "Alexandre \"Sunny\" Kovalenko" <gaijin.k@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: Broken APIC on my laptop or bug in FreeBSD?
Message-ID:  <87fxq2u4cj.fsf@kobe.laptop>
In-Reply-To: <200807211727.36427.jhb@freebsd.org> (John Baldwin's message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:27:36 -0400")
References:  <87prpcjrsk.fsf@kobe.laptop> <1216514182.2172.28.camel@RabbitsDen> <874p6lfjyx.fsf@kobe.laptop> <200807211727.36427.jhb@freebsd.org>

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On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:27:36 -0400, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Saturday 19 July 2008 09:00:22 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>> Well, I did try the following after booting with both CPUs in C1 state:
>>
>> (1) hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
>>     dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
>>     dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C2
>>
>>         I left the laptop to boot with both CPUs in C1, and then after a
>>         while I manually set dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest=C2.  This setup seems
>>         ok.  I can see processes being scheduled on both cpu.0 and cpu.1
>>         and there's no "freeze" when the laptop is idle.
>>
>> (2) hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
>>     dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1
>>     dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C3
>>
>>         Same as above, only this time I set dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest=C3.
>>
>> (3) hw.acpi.cpu.cx_lowest: C1
>>     dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C2
>>     dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C2
>>
>>         Not ok.  When the laptop stays idle for some time, it starts
>>         getting too slow to type stuff in a terminal, and after a while
>>         I get `calcru: runtime went backwards' messages.
>>
>> I don't know if being scheduled on cpu.1 when it is in C2/C3 state has
>> any measurable impact on user processes.  Should I leave the settings to
>> option (1) or (2) above for a while?  Is there any way to find out if
>> this causes any problems?
>
> My guess is that when both CPUs are in C2 or lower, the local APIC
> timer is getting shut off and that is why your box is no longer
> responsive.  Fixing this is doable, but not very easy currently.

Thanks!  I can live with at least one core being in C1.

It was mostly an annoying thing that "used to work" and seemed to be
broken when I had to replace the old dead laptop. Thanks to Alexandre's
excellent help, I can keep working now.

If there's any sort of patch or experimental thing I can test, or you
happen to think of something that would be nice to try, count me in :)




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