From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 18:41:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A8116A4DA for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:41:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E08B43D97 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:40:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so200718uge for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BLmtza2gbkbRcSBRkcHpe6af8P32qdn0X373LIP2coc85ehdJ5J4hff5agZXVJ0UBkmeHi3QP/GCy9RYDCu9vAVhn/ZlXurg07BONR7XfmZ3MQf1lWN5yuJJpugJROIJekmSjHFXqYMyyiy24avfm4P7dK6vzpX0gVgNZW5aSNA= Received: by 10.78.166.7 with SMTP id o7mr151697hue; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:40:45 -0700 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Atom Powers" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> <20060728222430.V27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: core@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:41:13 -0000 On 7/29/06, Nikolas Britton wrote: > On 7/29/06, Atom Powers wrote: > > On 7/28/06, User Freebsd wrote: > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Atom Powers wrote: > > > > > > > My shop runs 30+ FreeBSD hosts, and I have several more for personal > > > > use. But of those there are maybe 2-3 that I would be ok with listing > > > > and exactly zero that I will actually list. It's not that I don't want > > > > to help, but I'm not going to run a process like that on a production > > > > server. > > > > > > It is definitely your perogative, but I'm curious as to why not? You have > > > the source code for the client, so its not some sort of 'spyware' that is > > > sitting running on your machine ... > > > > > > > The over riding question here is not "why not" but "why". A package > > like this doesn't help the server run faster or better. It is another > > piece of code that has to be audited and maintained. I take a very > > minimalist approach to my systems. > > > > It takes me 100milliseconds to ping www.freebsd.org. Even if you used > FreeBSD for the rest of your natural life you would only use up 72 > seconds of it. Is that not a good trade off for what we get in return? > What if we find the userbase is very large and vendors take notice and decide to support FreeBSD? This could potential save us thousands of man hours! 100milliseconds OR hours on the phone with vendor support? If the statistics don't have the desired effect we can always back it out later and you will always have the choice to not run the stats client.... I don't see any bad side effects here. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/