From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 22 15:33:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 808FB16A400 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (saltmine.radix.net [207.192.128.40]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B0513C428 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dickey@saltmine.radix.net) Received: from saltmine.radix.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id l1MFXKWJ012470; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:33:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from dickey@localhost) by saltmine.radix.net (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id l1MFXKp3012469; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:33:20 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:33:20 -0500 From: Thomas Dickey To: perryh@pluto.rain.com Message-ID: <20070222153320.GA8712@saltmine.radix.net> References: <20070220155157.GA14595@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <20070220164517.GA27420@saltmine.radix.net> <20070220190537.GA15632@mech-aslap33.men.bris.ac.uk> <45dd5ca7.ae4LWHr14/zt+Tnf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45dd5ca7.ae4LWHr14/zt+Tnf%perryh@pluto.rain.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh to VMS - terminal problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:33:21 -0000 --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 01:04:39AM -0800, perryh@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > > yes - VMS only knows about DEC-compatible terminals. None of > > > the *BSD console emulators do well enough to be usable on VMS. > > >=20 > > > xterm supports ANSI color, VT220 emulation and UTF-8 > > > There's an faq at > > > http://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.faq.html > > > ftp://invisible-island.net/xterm/ >=20 > Which is fine if one doesn't mind having to fire up X. Another > possible approach would be to run ports/sysutils/screen, which > "should" provide a decent VT100 over just about anything with a > terminfo better than "dumb" or "unknown" :) termcap. screen doesn't use the fancier features from terminfo (and will do interest= ing but unuseful things if it is exposed to them). It's a decent vt100 for the same issues: applications running vi. Read the section on bugs (from its manpage): o Screen has no clue about double-high or double-wide characters. But this is the only area where vttest is allowed to fail. o Screen does not make use of hardware tabs. However, that comment about vttest overlooks some of the keyboard issues (such as repeating keys) that screen has no control over. There are several terminals smarter than dumb/unknown that screen cannot elevate or transform into a vt100... --=20 Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (SunOS) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQFF3be+tIqByHxlDocRAquuAJ9oFcFDyBGwMNfnm7T/2zNqBvwj0QCgnjN1 Uc1nd5/WhuYWiFER+ixHkeQ= =ci2M -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XsQoSWH+UP9D9v3l--