From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Oct 4 16:07:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2E310B0B76; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:07:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7128C76583; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 16:07:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id 86A0gr9VvWppD86A1gpIQi; Thu, 04 Oct 2018 10:07:34 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=YIcrNiOx c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=smKx5t2vBNcA:10 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=iNGMpphc3T5klhet3SkA:9 a=FwdSzZpY-AED6S4V:21 a=nP5a0vt2DfjzhsF2:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lQAYqbelq4TCjjL6:21 a=yRds3KjQjLn9Fhxo:21 a=51MI_dSXgo8BWtul:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from [10.168.101.253] (S0106788a207e2972.gv.shawcable.net [70.66.154.233]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CAFD15E7; Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:09:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Cy Schubert Subject: RE: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2018 09:07:34 -0700 To: Alexey Dokuchaev , Warner Losh CC: Mark Linimon , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org" , FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List , FreeBSD Net Message-Id: <20181004160915.8CAFD15E7@spqr.komquats.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPUIH3w5HSxtDe0JC0aDKpqaaCOALBGnuftciLF1uBydigCIIK2DkxiFz+Bgmy6Qjd2BQVIkJlSBQ0FOc/eXlq7nUTVhxIexU+ubFeep1RD+tUzcsS/c gdEelJV4UabnvyXdkHvR1gPgCKseAKsxic+DMSfGBeZPcCgRAu3uxNqtHpPIdjx0G/3Qg+serq0Yw817hcq1TWovTZRXuZvxNe4ggE7fXUgXSitdL93mF5Lg LBpC5msF5BELsc3NqaPhBhXXDIqZR8ncWM5tJogMlLMiPnMqYkMF3kpAAFW0UbxV233GIRiOf99nv5g0eb4qggdgBEVUKMycd20wwV3EItcrow1hfSR9ZKJK o0o/sF6K0brd6CqEr8vuM5xK/tQpwQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:07:36 -0000 People need to submit patches then. OTOH, they can all be moved to ports. I= MO, when pkgbase becomes a reality, much of this will become moot. People w= ill be able to mix and match base and ports packages. --- Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies. Cy Schubert or The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. --- -----Original Message----- From: Alexey Dokuchaev Sent: 04/10/2018 08:11 To: Warner Losh Cc: Mark Linimon; freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; freebsd-fcp@freebsd.org; FreeBS= D-STABLE Mailing List; FreeBSD Net Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Deprecating most 10/100 Ethernet drivers On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 08:43:33AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > As far as I know, none of the drivers listed could do 1Gbps. Right. My point was that original proposal put 10/100 drivers into one basket, which is IMHO not fair: 10Mbps cards are rarely seen and used, 100mbps are not, just like 1000bps ones. That said, I'm okay with deorbiting NICs that cannot do more than 10mbps. Cards that can do at least 100mbps should stay. Following up on Ricks' question, seeing a good example of modernization a certain driver would help interested people/hw owners to keep drivers for their cards viable. ./danfe _______________________________________________ freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"