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Date:       1 Jul 99 00:58:17 PDT
From:      Jesus Monroy <jesus.monroy@usa.net>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: [FreeBSD Man Pages]]]]
Message-ID:  <19990701075817.4357.qmail@www0r.netaddress.usa.net>

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Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> wrote:
> Jesus Monroy wrote:
> > =

> > Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > In case you hadn't noticed it, your survey gathered nothing but
> > > yawns because you didn't proffer any help in fixing the situation.
> > >
> >    Yawns... That certainly does not seem to be the case
> >    after the last 50 or so messages on this mailing list.
> =

> The last 50 or so messages on the list have all been about explaining
> in great detail why you're an asshole, not about the man pages.  The
> fact that you can't tell the difference just illustrates what an asshol=
e
> you are.
>
    It's an awfully lovely presentation also isn't it.
 =

> >    I think more along the line I'm stepping on toes and egos,
> >    including yours.
> =

> No, but I do get my hackles up when someone starts verbally abusing Sue=
=2E
> She's a close personal friend as well as a valuable instructor for =

> FreeBSD, and you certainly have NO ground to stand on and accuse her
> of arrogance, not in this forum or any other.
> =

    Why not, you are guilty of the same.

> > > Sue has helped hundreds, perhaps thousands of clueless newbies, in =

> > > many cases by teaching them to read the man pages provided with =

> > > FreeBSD.
> > > Nobody has made any claims they are perfect, but the are a =

> > > substantial
> > > resource and should be stressed as one of the resources making =

> > > FreeBSD
> > > a great system.
> > >
> >     Yes, greatly despised(sp?) and loved system.
> =

> If you despise it so, why don't you just go away.
> =

    Maybe because I love it so.

> > > Put up or shut up.
> > >
> >    I am putting up... would you like more of the same.
> > =

> >    I got fixes, where are your answers?
> =

> Answers?  I wrote man pages for the aio_ routines last week.  They're
> being reviewed by several committers who are familiar with the aio
> system, and I will probably commit them this weekend.  I haven't seen
> you contribute ANYTHING to FreeBSD in years, buddy-boy.
> =

     That is correct.

> You, on the other hand, haven't even taken the time to sort the results=

> of your survey into a well-organized PR, let alone submit patches or =

> correct man pages.  =

>
    Why? Would you prefer this SURVEY continue to perhaps
    the last 6 revisions of the OS just to show what a truely
    hacked job it has been.

> Since you seem to think this is so important, why =

> don't you detail the inconsistencies and I'll get to work fixing them?
> =

    Be happy to. You'll see it in a posting.
    If not, please feel free to send me a personal message on
    this. My word to you is that I will keep the message personal
    and you will get this information.

> So, I repeat, PUT UP OR SHUT UP.  Stop BrettGlassing us.
>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
     When I know what this is I might consider it.


---
"I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a bitmapped, =

pop-up-happy dungeon like NT."
http://www.performancecomputing.com/features/9809of1.shtml



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