From owner-freebsd-security Tue Aug 21 11:47:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from cithaeron.argolis.org (bgm-24-169-175-136.stny.rr.com [24.169.175.136]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 616D437B407 for ; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from piechota@argolis.org) Received: from localhost (piechota@localhost) by cithaeron.argolis.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f7LIksU24118; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:46:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from piechota@argolis.org) X-Authentication-Warning: cithaeron.argolis.org: piechota owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:46:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Piechota To: Wes Peters Cc: "Carroll, D. (Danny)" , Subject: Re: Silly crackers... NT is for kids... In-Reply-To: <3B81E36B.E2CFFEBF@softweyr.com> Message-ID: <20010821143517.L23909-100000@cithaeron.argolis.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Wes Peters wrote: > You're not ghosting your systems, or something like that? You're certainly > making things much harder on yourself. Install the OS, your basic apps, > and putty, and bingo! everyone has a reasonably good ssh client. While in theory good, the way this place works, it won't happen. The group I work in was created specifically because the overall Site IT dept couldn't give us the level of service the users needed. "Oh, your name is wrong in the Email database? Here's a work ticket and get that taken care of in the next 5-10 business days." They create the PC images, and they wouldn't be terribly receptive to us asking for more software. Once more, they're leary of all free software. I've heard that we had to go through a minefield of politics and paperwork to get emacs installed on our machines. They're a little better now, but but not much. That's what I get for working in a DoD/Old school IT shop. > On a generic-user Windows box? I'd rather have a life. If your employer > is doing stupid crap like this, you need to vote with your feet. No No, on the realtime machine controllers (QNX), or OCR nodes that need all the cpu cycles they can get. I'm talking about the [de|en]crypt on the remote side, not the PC side. Every bit or performance matters, and could be the difference between us and someone else getting a contract. > They aren't all that compelling, either. Fairs fair. I wish I didn't have the restrictions I have, but I need to live with them for the time being. -- Matt Piechota Finger piechota@emailempire.com for PGP key AOL IM: cithaeron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message