From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jan 12 15:02:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA00757 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:02:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00750 for ; Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:02:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@wxs.nl) Received: from daemon.ninth-circle.org ([195.121.57.64]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA6D39; Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:01:34 +0100 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199901122228.PAA06757@usr09.primenet.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:09:08 +0100 (CET) Organization: Ninth Circle Enterprises From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai To: Terry Lambert Subject: Re: What are the advantages of ELF kernels? Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, dervish@bantu.cl.msu.edu, (Daniel C. Sobral) Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 12-Jan-99 Terry Lambert wrote: >> I might be misleading here, but I'd think the Number One reason for >> changing to Elf is the lack of availability of binutils for a.out. >> Support for a.out has been abandoned in binutils (gcc tools). So, it >> seriously impacted on FreeBSD's ability to upgrade the compiler >> toolchain. > It's also a pity that ELF objects generated on a 3.0 system won't > be usable on a 3.1 (or later, if things go as slow as they have been, > lately) system, since binutils 2.9.1 made a gratuitous change in > the object file layout. Too bad FreeBSD didn't go to 2.9.1 and skip > over the bad format entirely, but whatever. I do hope that the transition of the new binutils have already taken? Or is going to take place before we fork off? (It might be that I missed some commitlogs, but I try to keep up =) --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven A veil of smoke is what I am, asmodai(at)wxs.nl I wait and I wait... Network/Security Specialist BSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message