From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 6 14:38:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from stuffed-crust.co.uk (stuffed-crust.co.uk [212.24.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A903E15584 for ; Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:38:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steveda@stuffed-crust.co.uk) Received: (qmail 1329 invoked by uid 5001); 6 Sep 1999 21:38:23 -0000 Received: from localhost.eurobell.net (HELO stuffed-crust.co.uk) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.eurobell.net with SMTP; 6 Sep 1999 21:38:23 -0000 To: Chuck Robey Cc: FreeBSD-chat@FreeBSD.org From: Steve Darrall Subject: Re: Linux install In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Sep 1999 17:06:46 EDT." Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:38:22 +0100 Message-Id: <19990906213829.A903E15584@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD is a "programmer's system"? Errr I wish someone had told me... I use it for word processing, scanning, artwork, and 0.0001% programming (OK, 75% IRC ;) ). I have a couple of perl scripts to sort my MP3s out, but that's about it as far as programming goes. Why categorise FreeBSD as a "programmer's system"? Its *MUCH* more versatile than that. Maybe I'm just weird for wanting to use a hardcore *NIX OS that runs a number of high-profile sites on the 'net as a desktop OS in favour of windows. OK, so FreeBSD takes a bit of getting used to after years if Windows, but with a bit of effort you can get there in the end. Maybe writing macros for vim to make it more like Ultraedit isn't being as 'pure' as some people would like, but if I don't like it, I change it...its the nature of the beast. (If anyone can give me some help with opening from/saving to FTP in vim I wouldn't say no ;) ) Maybe the developers see people like me as 'leeching' their work. If they do, then I'm sorry, but I'm no programmer, if I could contribure then I would. I guess the only contribution I can make is to say thanks to the thousands of people out there helping the Open Source movement (no matter what the OS may be) by developing the utilities/apps the people on this list along with countless others use every day. Hrmmm this is starting to ramble so maybe I should quit while I'm ahead. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't pigeon-hole any OS. Particularly one that can be whatever you want it to be. I realise that your mail was mainly saying how easy FreeBSD is to install compared to Linux. But why try anything else in the first place? Steve Your message dated: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 17:06:46 EDT >I just had to go help a friend install a Linux system. He's a true >newbie, and it doesn't look like he's headed towards programming, so >when I couldn't talk him out of leaving Windows (which he's pretty good >at), I figured Linux is probably more friendly, and shoved him towards >RedHat. I didn't want him complining that I had him on what I think of >as a programmer's system (FreeBSD, of course). > >Heck with that, it's the last time I try Linux. Their install is >nowhere near as easy as FreeBSD's, at least to him and I. From what I >can tell, they don't even have usermode ppp at all, and getting their >kernel mode ppp working hasn't been fun. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message