From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 14 21:23:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF63C16A47C for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:23:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8574943D46 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:23:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C9E2097; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:23:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: 0.0/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on tim.des.no Received: from dwp.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by tim.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274882086; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:23:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0E781B85E; Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:23:35 +0200 (CEST) From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) To: Gary Corcoran References: <863bauk3gp.fsf@dwp.des.no> <45099123.4000500@rcn.com> <86lkomw3co.fsf@dwp.des.no> Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:23:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86lkomw3co.fsf@dwp.des.no> (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?Q?Sm=F8r?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?grav's?= message of "Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:22:15 +0200") Message-ID: <86ejuew3ag.fsf@dwp.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.3 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: numbers don't lie ... X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 21:23:39 -0000 des@des.no (Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav) writes: > Gary Corcoran writes: > > The confusing thing is that I thought 'real' time should be >=3D 'user'= + 'sys'. > > But here 'user' is much greater than 'real' for both machines! The sen= se I > > got from the other messages in this thread is that 'user' time is somew= hat > > meaningless (i.e. unreliable as a measure) in a multi-CPU and/or hypert= hreading > > environment. Can you clarify? > real >=3D (user + sys) * ncpu umm, other way around of course. real * ncpu >=3D (user + sys) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no