From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 19:46:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF4416A4D0; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:46:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vicor-nb.com (bigwoop.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF3D43D2F; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:46:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from elischer.org (julian.vicor-nb.com [208.206.78.97]) by mail.vicor-nb.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D237A425; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:13 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <41E57E85.5040102@elischer.org> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:13 -0800 From: Julian Elischer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.3.1) Gecko/20030516 X-Accept-Language: en, hu MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Barry Bouwsma References: <1105317580.22779.12.camel@wednesday.pricegrabber.com> <20050110132233.GA5374@lum.celabo.org> <41E2D492.9020302@elischer.org> <200501121456.j0CEu3J2088923@Mail.NOSPAM.DynDNS.dK> In-Reply-To: <200501121456.j0CEu3J2088923@Mail.NOSPAM.DynDNS.dK> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: "Jacques A. Vidrine" cc: FreeBSD Barnyard and Stable Subject: Re: update for 4.11 Security Officer-supported branches X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 19:46:14 -0000 Barry Bouwsma wrote: >[thread hijacked from freebsd-security@ and landed in stable@ ] > >On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 11:16:34 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > >>While a 4.12 will PROBABLY not happen, I do plan on continued MFCs of >>important >>changes to RELENG_4 as I do not envision my custommers moving to 5.x >>until some >>time in 2006 at the earliest. (Including fixes from dragonfly, and >>possibly some new drivers >>and thing like USB fixes. >> >> > >Thanks, Julian, and I'd like to contemplate getting a few of my MFC >hacks that I'm running on 4.x, added to releng, if possible. > >One of these things I've found very handy is the `mount' option >introduced in 5.x that allows one to specify with -F an alternate >to /etc/fstab to be used. > we can probably MFC anything that doesn't break any existing ABI. > >This I use for conditional mounting of devices which may or may >not be present, like external USB (to catch your interest, heh) >drives with a complicated partition layout. I test if a known >drive is present at a certain device, and if so, >`mount -F /etc/fstab-da0' or `-da1' and so on, as part of my boot. > >In order to adopt this change, I had to add to libc in 4.x as well >as butcher the `mount' code. Does such a change stand a chance of >being added to 4.x, or are infrastructure changes required this way, >like to libc, off-limits outside my own hive of personal hackery? > > libc is not usually a target in a legacy branch. Addign a new function to it may be ok in some cases but probably best to not do it. > >(What's missing, as far as I know, that could be handy, is a >comparable option to `umount' when one wants to quickly detach a >drive with ten mounted filesystems. I haven't looked at this idea) > > >(freebsd-legacy@ , anyone, for those of us too stubborn to join the >modern world, and get confused when the -stable list postings don't >make clear what release is being discussed, or want a quiet place to >mull over 2.2.x ?) > I was considerring this.. when 4.11 dies, we may make such a list. > > >thanks >barry bouwsma > >