From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 08:19:11 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2140E1065674 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:19:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AED8FC17 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:19:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tevans.uk@googlemail.com) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id h3so308371nfh.33 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:19:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:from:to:cc :in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version :x-mailer; bh=Wkd8gMbvwhX5y087PxK+mGPliZa6ZRi+G31b/uSlaBE=; b=THn6G7lssf72FQn+t2sJxAxFnlde1m0c5D46lj4CjdAhbQgRfXtDMs/nUKB5joDx7f xqhS2xQTBa7HWhReG1/KhTZNofL4alR8O+aL3uE935qJRv9N2VMJ5vQ63frKGSZXKKO0 3WsMZ7+d9mo2M+Wh72HmaSh9zlaVoYy5n/X2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date :message-id:mime-version:x-mailer; b=POcFFGSM7PTj1k39Kjd/isWFy6U2RaOe24no6d3wopQmyaQS48FluhT3m5RzmeXD4k DPgJNAOovTcIhFhFjzYukd3l3aD/T+J+NM0VsffDhQnWlKnG0ZpWBD4MALV2oLsLHHIT YHgwhreCBdiwsxQ7JAHOamU5ZnspgnHLDKAz0= Received: by 10.210.115.15 with SMTP id n15mr1014515ebc.28.1218701949200; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:19:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?127.0.0.1? ( [217.206.187.80]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id p10sm800459gvf.7.2008.08.14.01.19.07 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:19:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Evans To: Mike Meyer In-Reply-To: <20080813130612.67542bd5@mbook.local> References: <78cb3d3f0808120810o54f49373n69ac5076c9a9c9b7@mail.gmail.com> <200808130813.56656.jonathan+freebsd-hackers@hst.org.za> <48A29E15.5080303@unsane.co.uk> <200808131227.30125.jonathan+freebsd-hackers@hst.org.za> <20080813080032.2328a474@bhuda.mired.org> <1218646719.70002.27.camel@localhost> <20080813130612.67542bd5@mbook.local> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-/gnGfjk1Ma/UnSKBILyW" Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:19:05 +0100 Message-Id: <1218701945.70002.31.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer , Jonathan McKeown Subject: Re: If not the force, what should I use? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 08:19:11 -0000 --=-/gnGfjk1Ma/UnSKBILyW Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 13:06 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 17:58:39 +0100 Tom Evans w= rote: >=20 > > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 08:00 -0400, Mike Meyer wrote: > > >=20 > > > stop If the service is to be started as specified by > > > rc.conf(5), stop the service. This should check = that the > > > service is running and complain if it is not. If > > > forcestop is given, ignore the rc.conf(5) check a= nd > > > attempt to stop. > > >=20 > > Why should it complain? >=20 > Because somebody quoted it out of context to justify a completely > bogus assumption about what was and wasn't a bug. >=20 > The bug in question is that the man page should note that > force(start|stop|restart) should ignore any precmd problems as well as > the setting in rc.conf, as that is what the tools provided by rc.subr > do. >=20 >