From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jun 12 10:42:31 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA09859 for isp-outgoing; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from h2o.journey.net (h2o.journey.net [207.227.162.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09854 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 10:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (listuser@localhost) by h2o.journey.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA20997; Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 13:41:42 -0400 (EDT) From: listuser To: "Stephen A. Derdau" cc: "Victor A. Sudakov" , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internet providers discouraging customers from unix In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk I probably have an interesting case I have POPS in Detroit/Chicago other areas of Michigan and part of Kansas. I have over 40% running on MAC about 22% Running on some variation of Unix. Less that 1% on OS/2 or BeOS. and the remainder splitting between Win95/Win3.1/WinNT. I am sure this stat is way out of the ordinary but we market for the Unix people and seem to get alot of Mac people from some strange reason :) --Matt Matthew S. Bailey journey communications, l.l.c mbailey@journey.net On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Stephen A. Derdau wrote: > We a provider here in NH.....Doesn't matter to us what you want to run. > Unix, Win95, NT....whatever it is were happy to help out. O yes > Even MACs are fine with us...... > > Stephen A. Derdau > XTDL inc > 603 4714700 "It's just a matter of perspective" > > > On Tue, 10 Jun 1997, Victor A. Sudakov wrote: > > > Adrian Chadd wrote: > > > > > > > > > They all seem to end up saying "talk to your ISP" but my ISP will not > > > > > deal with anyone running any sort of U*ix system. Anyone got any ideas? > > > > > > > > I have seen many messages of this kind recently. Is it a new fashion in > > > > internet service providing or do those providers receive money from Bill > > > > Gates? > > > > > > I certainly don't receive money from Bill :-) > > > > Are you a provider? What is your company's attitude to clients running unix? > > > > > > > > Thing is, with larger ISPs, the clueful unix people are usually the > > > administrators, and are generally kept *AWAY* from user support. > > > The droids DOING user support dont know anything about unix, and so .. :) > > > > A regular customer only speaks to the support personnel. And suffers from > > their ignorance. Even if there is a clueful unix person in the company, the > > general customer is discouraged from using unix by the user support. I think > > this should be changed, and as soon as possible, too. Admins should say > > their word. > > > > I myself am lucky to have such an ISP who not only discourages me from using > > unix, but is very helpful and many times has given me a hand and helped me > > out of difficult situations. Of course, I am trying not to abuse this > > generosity and prefer to study a lot of things myself because I understand > > that if I had Win95 I would not ask so many questions (perhaps ;-)) > > > > May be I am somehow a special case but I have setup client internet software > > on five platforms (MS-DOS, OS/2, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, FreeBSD) and > > FreeBSD turned out to be the easiest. OS/2 was a nighmare. > > > > -- > > Victor Sudakov > > http://www.tomsk.su/r/persons/vas.htm > > > > >