From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 19 16:19:00 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFCE2DDD12 for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 16:19:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49RLfq4Dq7z3X9b for ; Tue, 19 May 2020 16:18:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([94.222.15.198]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue010 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MMoKq-1jIRbc3uZ2-00IkVR; Tue, 19 May 2020 18:18:53 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 18:18:51 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: best sound subsystem for freebsd for a desktop Message-Id: <20200519181851.3bc181a1.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200519180547.4802dc7f@archlinux> References: <20200519141914.GF23072@bastion.zyxst.net> <20200519173839.8e758dc3.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200519180547.4802dc7f@archlinux> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:JLbKK5yOPwoL0PKpacVEh5Fja/ze16IEMceVEIffWwPUh4wmAzF W+nMotONV/iuax5y9u9aIJFmKwOppYlS+ShP8wJUz1C2GjJg7i3rYfu8F6iIEGdkZ7h4Z4t vTp30fb1vZBb79/EnmV5T4q3OoS2o+vditf6v7L7ScvcI3xrc4ETUuai44ye50pY2k0CwK1 6O79jbJJzWPVWU2NWarmg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:neFHW4cogyw=:iN+VEjiVsDsGS1v/ZOzDFt X/Y5XbXCKNglsx5tK1m0xfA3wNN89nM01yKuKHF4FEq71YLKR1DasCLtikN+wecnleIdpzmFy 3ZFVv9WU6LxuT35flMvIw/mlHU1+csxi/F1yT/6YVn3tthUVfQqeApV7vPCOXM8fqraPkaVdQ I8tSghriJo5FeRe5f3bKf5ckzphaheOL9IeaWCsicaaKDVmGma3qxZBNIcxmwbPjJ3hXyBMDE 2BNM8y22luPEUC4ZiczOSxTCbLdbgA17Iu3eDnHoJUNpw68FRD505gjkBJL5C+ARbClNhTPDF s2Rv5n/BGZOTMhW6GxPsOYVJ6n/OzrOssOYptsKsWGAjobxkcTgoxRbOwhNr0F+k8E98l8WD2 YV2ZNaMVWUHN3gH2BT6ZzoLV6Hkf3rJax1RCSEUT/iTSP7tmVKbXYSzE0hIujtdYOq1zq8wx+ OqP2eOC7xjKF2VQjNrAs1osB+pppsW7oVRwU4tLN0ORZUMa2S8Qvd3rHL7CtHmzFeekMdr5XY GJtI65wbIMGAP/tn1NGxB07TGeEs4q1jA2OwtUfGNMDhTiw4lhRkhZ0imOxaSpbrOUQmX7zk1 z5f5lxS40M/bK1rA542ZvcitZAp9oDMeSflSF0CMtMcEKD8JvVj/6sd7t/1VgXJeq7gjKAjPL oGOGbzl88AC9E7Eg0G23kN9bZ8z0TGHQaACE+HgtYJV8KSD1X7OzK3mbFUlAxE/L2GYS0xhfx GcqHaVoWAmyc+j2PfgiyNMUTjO7gBQIT2X7CJPnOzCBO3RcdENOBjggZHDl1Y5zAwWikuxLxq cptOJtxpvIWM8OYrcRwNqonQ8kgt2+brPztJHgwf/Unp70FR26yRMj84qtTiz9EMUQecGKL X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49RLfq4Dq7z3X9b X-Spamd-Bar: +++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.126.131) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.47 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[rocketmail.com]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[94.222.15.198:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.45)[0.452]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.62)[0.619]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.126.131:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 16:19:00 -0000 On Tue, 19 May 2020 18:05:47 +0200, Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Tue, 19 May 2020 17:38:39 +0200, Polytropon wrote: > >> 3. system noises like you'd expect from a desktop > > > >Depends on the desktop environment you use, and how it is > >configured to entertain, erm annoy the user. I don't expect > >a desktop to make any noises, unless the head is banged > >onto it. :-) > > The bell, aka as PC speaker beep, could be a useful desktop sound, > unless the user does run vi. In X, you can even configure what the bell sound should be (using something like "xset b 100 1000 15"). With xbiff, it says "You have mail!". And certain MUAs can even define their own media files for things they want you to hear. NOW PAY ATTENTION TO ME! YOU HAVE NO NEW MESSAGES!!! :-) > Joking apart, desktop sound is not just an annoyance, it is also a > serious risk, especially if different sources could access audio output > at the same time. Programs, if configured properly, can deal with that. For example mplayer can have its own volume setting independent from other sounds. The master volume can be used as a "ceiling value", even if PCM is at 100. > Imagine you set the wanted level for the trash bin sound, after that > you watch a very silent video. You increase the volume of the amplifier > much, to listen to the video and after watching and listening the > video, you move it to the trash bin, without decreasing the volume > first. The trash bin sound could blow the speakers. And curious people can hear things they're not supposed to hear and to know: "Please enter your secret password." "Eytsh you en tee ee are two." Shhh! "You entered the password hunter two. Is that your password?" Um... "Please speak louder into the microphone. Is hunter two your password?" Yes? "You have confirmed your password hunter twelve. You are now logged in to Facebook. Now enter your credit card number and secret PIN to confirm your identity." Erm... ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...