From owner-freebsd-current Sun Sep 26 4:49:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-123.max1-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.8.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906A31532E for ; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 04:49:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA00966; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:49:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA23749; Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:52:35 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199909261052.LAA23749@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), gary@eyelab.psy.msu.edu (Gary Schrock), current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: On hub.freebsd.org refusing to talk to dialups In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:47:46 PDT." <199909241847.LAA03621@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:52:35 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Basically, I think not allowing ISP's to allow the Dialup lines to > > forward email as a good thing, but for them to limit was businesses do > > with their IP traffic is simply too big brother'ish, no matter what > > their contract states. > > If _we_ don't start to do something about it, big brother _is_ going > to do something about it. Trust me on this one, being a member of the > USPA I know that we are far better off implementing our own (as ISP's) > set of safe gaurds that help eliminate certain undesirable behavior. [.....] I think it's up to the ISP what default policies they have, and I also think that this sort of policy is a good default... but only as long as the ISP allows exceptions. As a paying subscriber with a clean record I *must* be allowed to ask for a hole through your firewall. This protects both sides. > -- > Rod Grimes - KD7CAX - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message