From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 29 18:27:51 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125A7106564A for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:27:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gy0-f182.google.com (mail-gy0-f182.google.com [209.85.160.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAE28FC12 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyf3 with SMTP id 3so4571572gyf.13 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:27:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=ALqmwkPOK3RIyXy5YFNWyNmDl4seX366pAPI/rLHLKo=; b=GQfuBAi35M2bgWBPM5TbaBLr1uh1Up4R/uD2MTdD9aoxp43Ldh3TThtIDBSvSv2G0U Ts+EL/0SRhhVyYx/IIaOp/OUNh31CRODrNzFOB2p1l2AQ6v7jf/0hdWkuwu6az+G0zNV GHGuxmvBkp2eux+bpuU3kilpulTWdK15UqtMw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=q/au07l3it576cUCoRLk60G1HX+bpvxgNYiLXGysRoP3mKNSolVan6wGUuoArBkk90 RXBgk7QKueU+t7hoGhwaTmRXazae+DE/iNy5AOMdfj6gQl84bYGJYVFoiZImxIT+QLCu H3PbXiR1dGnHrX55w5xXG3MBR/jgiBFvfMchY= Received: by 10.236.111.13 with SMTP id v13mr28195144yhg.7.1293647270052; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:27:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from ivoire.paulbeard.org (174-21-116-89.tukw.qwest.net [174.21.116.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a64sm8271938yhd.36.2010.12.29.10.27.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:27:48 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Paul Beard In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 10:27:42 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Jeremy Messenger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) Cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: eggdbus calls xsltproc with -nonet: how is that supposed to work? X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:27:51 -0000 On Dec 29, 2010, at 10:02 AM, Jeremy Messenger wrote: > I can't reproduce it. It ran perfect fine here, so to our tinderboxes > and pointyhat. How could xsltproc -nonet possibly work? It makes a request for a = networked resource with the network explicitly disabled. If this command = is specified as part of the build, it shouldn't work anywhere: = "WORKSFORME" would never apply. If it isn't in the build process = everywhere, what are the criteria that turn it on or off?=20 Your example doesn't show if/how the file being used as the stylesheet = is made available. Again, if it's not present on the local filesystem = and it cannot be fetched, how can it work? If you have it on the local = filesystem, as I did when I re-ran the build after I saw why it was = failing, of course it worked.=20 As for the suggestion that my network is somehow too slow for GNOME to = work, I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or just obnoxious. I'm = not actually using GNOME, just trying to build one of the myriad = dependencies it has. How long before GNOME itself is a dependency for = the kernel?=20 Obviously (?) I have network access, 3Mbits of it, as best the local = telco can cobble together, or csup wouldn't work. This is a headless box = that lives in a closet in my basement. It doesn't need GNOME as a UI. I = don't have xorg installed, just two pkgs that lots of other pkgs depend = on.=20 Seriously, most of the port mgmt issues I run into stem from GNOME = ports. Maybe I miss stuff in UPDATING but this telepathy-glib = fustercluck was just another example of something somewhere not being = validated/verified. As many reports as there were of gobject and friends = balking on a header file, blaming it on pilot error seems hard to = defend. The MacPorts project on OS X has similar issues where WORKSFORME = is the default response from developers/porters whose systems never seem = to have the same problems as the people who actually use the stuff.=20 Enough. I'll just use send-pr from now on.=20 -- Paul Beard Are you trying to win an argument or solve a problem?=20