From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Jan 16 17:59:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1FE37B401 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:59:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B913943F1E for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:59:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([12.242.158.67]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52) with ESMTP id <20030117015920052008vnade>; Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:59:20 +0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0H1wFm9031290; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:58:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0H1w9i1031287; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:58:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from swear@attbi.com) X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: jojo set sender to swear@attbi.com using -f To: Warren Block Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Document Copyrights/Credit Messages References: <20030107171925.W6075@wonkity.com> <20030116164835.V19422@wonkity.com> From: swear@attbi.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 16 Jan 2003 17:58:08 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20030116164835.V19422@wonkity.com> Message-ID: Lines: 47 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warren Block writes: > I have written a document for an in-house package. The SGML-formatted > text is entirely original, by me. > > The PDF and HTML versions of this document are generated with the FDP > tools, so they use callout images and stylesheets and other portions of > the formats defined by FDP. > > If I include the copyright message from the Handbook, it looks like I'm > giving permission to copy *my* document. What I want is to properly > credit and show copyrights for FDP, DocBook, and anyone else involved, > without granting permission to copy *my* document. Is that possible? Only a lawyer may give you legal advice. Here are some unqualified observations, after this quote from USC 17-103. (b) The copyright in a compilation or derivative work extends only to the material contributed by the author of such work, as distinguished from the preexisting material employed in the work, and does not imply any exclusive right in the preexisting material. The copyright in such work is independent of, and does not affect or enlarge the scope, duration, ownership, or subsistence of, any copyright protection in the preexisting material. So much for "what belongs to whom", but of course we want things labeled so other people can know up front (before lawyers are hired :). So when practical, everything gets marked for ownership. But well- placed notices and explanations should do, either in the work or in accompanying info. If someone's license required placement of notices or license copies in the work, I'd either do what it requires or not use it (or try to get a waiver from the owner). AFAIK, there's nothing wrong with putting a notice A of your own before another notice B saying that notice B is only there because it's required and saying that its claims (eg, on your work) are invalid (when you think they are invalid). As to what FDP licenses require, I don't remember. I do sometimes wonder about the validity of a license from the claimed owner, "The FreeBSD Documentation Project" which is not a legal entity, AFAIK. BTW, note that many GPL'd works (some claiming to be wholly GPL- licensed) are derivatives being partially BSD-licensed, or even (especially .h headers) in the public domain, theoretically making it impossible to derive from it without violating the GPL which requires the whole of the derivative to be GPLed. :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message