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Date:      Thu, 08 Jul 1999 00:59:25 -0600
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        David Scheidt <dscheidt@enteract.com>
Cc:        Yann Ramin <atrus@matadore.montereyhigh.com>, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IA64
Message-ID:  <4.2.0.56.19990708005732.0414c5b0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.3.96.990707213420.27433B-100000@shell-2.enteract. com>
References:  <4.2.0.56.19990707200123.00b36480@localhost>

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At 10:02 PM 7/7/99 -0500, David Scheidt wrote:

 >Signing an NDA to work on source availabe system is silly, unless of course
>Intel will let you out of it when the make documentation available to 
>the general public.  

Which they will. That's their deal with Red Hat.

 > Intel hasn't had a high-end processor that flopped in 17 years.

>Intel also hasn't released a processor that was as far ahead of the 
>compiler development.  It won't be clear that what Intel can deliver 
>until they ship something.  There are lots of cool stuff in IA64, but 
>if Intel can't deliver mostly bug-free chips, for less than a couple 
>times what the equivalent Alpha or PA-RISC costs.  This is especially 
>true if the the compilers aren't very good at introduction.

The technology for such compilers is well-known. Cygnus already has a
prototype. (Alas, GCC is foreclosing competition in this market, so it may
be what many of us are stuck with.)

--Brett



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