From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 5 18:02:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B60516A41C for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 18:02:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from makeworld.com (makeworld.com [216.201.118.142]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BE843D1F for ; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 18:02:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.com [127.0.0.1]) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E55660E2; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:02:28 -0500 (CDT) Received: from makeworld.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (makeworld.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 33555-01; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:02:23 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [216.201.118.138] (racerx.makeworld.com [216.201.118.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by makeworld.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C2A60DA; Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:02:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <42A33E35.3090805@makeworld.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 13:02:29 -0500 From: Chris User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (X11/20050414) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Liam J. Foy" References: <42A23428.7080908@makeworld.com> <42A23CFA.4030502@telus.net> <42A23FBF.8080803@makeworld.com> <20050605172149.GA14788@anarion> <42A335E5.6050307@makeworld.com> <20050605175349.GA15071@anarion> In-Reply-To: <20050605175349.GA15071@anarion> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.91.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by ClamAV 0.75.1/amavisd-new-2.3.1 (20050509) at makeworld.com - Isn't it ironic Cc: FreeBSD - Advocacy Subject: Re: FreeBSD on IRC X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: racerx@makeworld.com List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2005 18:02:29 -0000 Liam J. Foy wrote: >>It's just another vehicle for users to use. The more tools you give to >>people, they better off they are if they wish to use them. >> >>IRC does not have to have the stigma it seems to have. There are many >>decent users out there - and the efforts should not be dismissed - imho. > > > It's always the minority fucking it for everyone else. The FreeBSD view[1] also > keeps them away from IRC problems. I personally think the FreeBSD view is fair > and shows a true state of IRC these days. > > However, you must except people are not always going to head straight for > the handbook (you mentioned we ask a few simple things). It seems most problems > in IRC arise from someone asking a simple question, and everyone thinking > they're cool to jump on the bang wagon and riducule. > > [1]: http://www.freebsd.org/support.html > >>-- >>Best regards, >>Chris > > While what you say has more truth then not, at least the website has changed some verbiage - and that's what I was hoping for to begin with. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/support.html#IRC In any event, we'll still continue to support the project there - no matter what the overall opinions are. -- Best regards, Chris If you are already in a hole, there's no use to continue digging.