From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 26 03:12:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B2607DF; Sun, 26 May 2013 03:12:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C737AE; Sun, 26 May 2013 03:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.15]) by ltcfislmsgpa06.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r4Q3C0d1014811 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 25 May 2013 22:12:00 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB26.FNFIS.com ([10.132.99.18]) by LTCFISWMSGHT04.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.15]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sat, 25 May 2013 22:12:12 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: Nathan Whitehorn Subject: Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction Thread-Topic: FreeBSD installers and future direction Thread-Index: AQHOWV60z6k72swSkkmGANUzy/EMLJkWZ1wAgAAkfQCAAE6UgIAARDoA Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 03:12:00 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D7201F5B146@ltcfiswmsgmb26> References: <51A0DC3F.9030301@cran.org.uk> <51A1025A.2020607@cran.org.uk> <51A14445.4060305@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <51A14445.4060305@freebsd.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.126] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <4DE6D26514B1814582C6830C90E9740E@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-05-25_07:2013-05-24,2013-05-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , Devin Teske X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 03:12:04 -0000 On May 25, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: > On 05/25/13 13:26, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On 25/05/2013 17:15, Matt Olander wrote: >>> From my vague recollection, we discussed improving bsdinstall by tying >>> it in with pc-sysinstall, which we've been threatening to do for at >>> least a year. Also, there was much discussion about Devin's bsdconfig >>> perhaps tying in with a Google SoC Project. >>>=20 >>> I think Devin was nominated for most of the work, since he was unable >>> to defend himself :P >>=20 >> Thanks. From previous discussions with Devin I think he has other plans = for the installer that don't involve pc-sysinstall. But since it seems the = future is all sh(1) code, I won't be able to contribute. >>=20 >> https://wiki.freebsd.org/PCBSDInstallMerge lists a few limitations with = pc-sysinstall - are these being fixed? >>=20 >=20 > I'm not aware of any movement there (on either side of the table). I'd pe= rsonally be very suspicious of an all-sh(1) future -- by far the cleanest p= arts of bsdinstall are in C -- and this is especially true for interacting = with geom. So that I can get a feel for the expectations on quality of product=85 You say the cleanest parts of bsdinstall are in C. What makes the sh parts unclean? Not looking for any particular answer=85 j= ust want your opinion. I've been working very hard to produce a heavy-lifting "dialog.subr" (see b= ase/head/usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share/dialog.subr) which makes dialog(1) work v= ery nice and clean in sh(1). However, this may not be your concern, and you= may instead have some other "cleanliness" insight that I can address in my= work. --=20 Devin > That said, since I've lost nearly all of my free time and ability to work= on bsdinstall, I won't get in the way of anyone else working on things > -Nathan > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.