From owner-cvs-ports Sun May 3 15:01:42 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from daemon@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA06302 for cvs-ports-outgoing; Sun, 3 May 1998 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-cvs-ports) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA06267; Sun, 3 May 1998 15:01:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA12393; Mon, 4 May 1998 00:00:35 +0200 (CEST) To: Eivind Eklund cc: Matthew Hunt , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/www/ijb - Imported sources In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 03 May 1998 23:04:38 +0200." <19980503230438.48318@follo.net> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 00:00:35 +0200 Message-ID: <12391.894232835@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-ports@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In message <19980503230438.48318@follo.net>, Eivind Eklund writes: >> Log Message: >> Import of ijb, the Internet Junkbuster. It's an HTTP proxy that >> strips advertisements and so on. > >Should't this be under ATT (for "Automated Theft Tool")? ;-) > >Refusing to download ads from the WWW is very bad practice. Those ads are >paying for the service you're using. I'm not even certain we should have >the above program as a port - I don't think we'd have a 'automated >crack-on-download' tool, for instance, and this is actually fairly similar. I disagree with you on this: First: ------ If I used Lynx I wouldn't see the ads. From this we can deduce that people pay for having their ads placed, but not for having them read. (This is exactly the same as the ads in any magazine, the magzine publishes the ads, but they do not guarantee that I will not simply skip those pages when I read the magazine.) Second: ------- As this is an "opt-in" thing, I can always choose to see the ads if I want to. I'm not wilfully depriving anybody of their daily dosis of fancy animated graphics promising creditcards being offered exclusively to just about anybody, hair-growth formula or domain hosting on linux servers in somebodys bedroom. Third: ------ FreeBSD is in the business of providing tools for people, we're not in the business of setting their policies. So I welcome ijb to the ports collection, and I'm going to install it first thing in the morning :-) -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "ttyv0" -- What UNIX calls a $20K state-of-the-art, 3D, hi-res color terminal