From owner-cvs-all Thu Oct 24 17: 8:47 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5C137B401; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:08:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDB443E4A; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:08:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g9P08dpk000986; Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:08:40 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20021024.180717.57021784.imp@bsdimp.com> To: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile chunk.c write_alpha_disk.c write_i386_disk.c write_pc98_disk.c From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <5586.1035495119@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <20021024212815.GJ5170@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <5586.1035495119@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <5586.1035495119@critter.freebsd.dk> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : In message <20021024212815.GJ5170@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>, Alexander Langer : writes: : >Thus spake Mark Valentine (mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk): : > : >> This is hardly a matter of personal preference; it's one of consistency, : >> compatibility and robustness. : : The Israel and the palestinians both have polices which they : rightfully claim to be consistent, compatible and robust. : : That doesn't mean they agree on them. : : What you think of as "consistent" other people think of as inconsistent. : : And so religious wars can get started... : : I'm out of this, until a majority has carried a motion for a formally : specified naming system. Oh Come off of it Poul. You broke existing practice. Admit it. The convention has existed since the deep, dark past. It was well established in FreeBSD as smelling right. Sure, it didn't smell right to a sysV person, but that's irrelevant. The spec is simple: The first BSD label found on the disk is mapped to as well as instead of . It is like this for all disks (I don't understand the SCSI comment, since I use SCSI all the time and IDE all the time and they behave identically in this manner). I'm all for progress, but this is rediculous. You can't unilaterally deside you don't like something, kill it then complain about the people complaining and muddy the waters with the bogus 'oh, this is a personal preference issue'. It isn't. It has been the documented convention since dirt in the FreeBSD project. So get off your high horse and fix the damn thing, or at least accept others fixing it for you. This is ridiculous. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message