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Date:      Thu, 24 Oct 2002 18:07:17 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "M. Warner Losh" <imp@bsdimp.com>
To:        phk@critter.freebsd.dk
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/lib/libdisk Makefile chunk.c write_alpha_disk.c write_i386_disk.c write_pc98_disk.c 
Message-ID:  <20021024.180717.57021784.imp@bsdimp.com>
In-Reply-To: <5586.1035495119@critter.freebsd.dk>
References:  <20021024212815.GJ5170@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de> <5586.1035495119@critter.freebsd.dk>

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            Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk> writes:
: In message <20021024212815.GJ5170@fump.kawo2.rwth-aachen.de>, Alexander Langer 
: writes:
: >Thus spake Mark Valentine (mark@thuvia.demon.co.uk):
: >
: >> This is hardly a matter of personal preference; it's one of consistency,
: >> compatibility and robustness.
: 
: The Israel and the palestinians both have polices which they
: rightfully claim to be consistent, compatible and robust.
: 
: That doesn't mean they agree on them.
: 
: What you think of as "consistent" other people think of as inconsistent.
: 
: And so religious wars can get started...
: 
: I'm out of this, until a majority has carried a motion for a formally
: specified naming system.

Oh Come off of it Poul.  You broke existing practice.  Admit it.  The
convention has existed since the deep, dark past.  It was well
established in FreeBSD as smelling right.  Sure, it didn't smell right
to a sysV person, but that's irrelevant.

The spec is simple:  The first BSD label found on the disk is mapped
to <devname><unit><letter> as well as instead of
<devname><unit><slice><letter>.  It is like this for all disks (I
don't understand the SCSI comment, since I use SCSI all the time and
IDE all the time and they behave identically in this manner).

I'm all for progress, but this is rediculous.  You can't unilaterally
deside you don't like something, kill it then complain about the
people complaining and muddy the waters with the bogus 'oh, this is a
personal preference issue'.  It isn't.  It has been the documented
convention since dirt in the FreeBSD project.  So get off your high
horse and fix the damn thing, or at least accept others fixing it for
you.  This is ridiculous.

Warner

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