From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 31 15:44:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2212916A4CE for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:44:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mta10.adelphia.net (mta10.adelphia.net [68.168.78.202]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04D743D2F for ; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:44:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from Barbish3@adelphia.net) Received: from barbish ([67.20.101.71]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040731154409.PXGH6319.mta10.adelphia.net@barbish>; Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:44:09 -0400 From: "JJB" To: "Bill Moran" Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:44:08 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20040731110122.44692b23.wmoran@potentialtech.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Importance: Normal cc: jbarnes@c3po.barnesos.net cc: questions@freebsd.org cc: jonc@chen.org.nz Subject: RE: safe mode for kernel.old X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Barbish3@adelphia.net List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 15:44:14 -0000 You used the upgrade in place from source so the old kernel release version was left over by error. Try doing an separate stand alone kernel recompile and the kernel.old is not created. This problem is more visible for people who install 5.x from scratch. Or maybe this is a difference between using the new buildkernal process over the older kernel compile process. All I know for sure is I installed 5.2.1 from miniistall.iso install CD and used the older kernel compile process to build a custom kernel and the kernel.old module was not created and the kernel.generic module was never there. So what I am saying is you may be trying to run the kernel.old module from 5.1 and not the one you think you built from 5.2.1. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Moran [mailto:wmoran@potentialtech.com] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 11:01 AM To: Barbish3@adelphia.net Cc: jbarnes@c3po.barnesos.net; jonc@chen.org.nz; questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: safe mode for kernel.old "JJB" wrote: > I think you have missed some very important details. In 4.x releases > when you do a kernel compile the system automatically renames the > current kernel to kernel.old for you. There is also a kernel.generic > which is always there. > > In 5.x versions the whole kernel boot process was replaced with new > method and the auto rename of the kernel no longer happens on a > recompile and there is no kernel.generic module available. Whoever > added the new boot process to 5.x did real poor job of integrating > the new pirated boot code into Freebsd. This should be reported as > a bug by everybody who wants the old kernel rename process added > back into FreeBSD. What are you talking about? I did a cvsup/make kernel process just a week ago on a 5.1 machine, and the 5.2 kernel refused to work with the network card. Lucky for me, kernel.old was in the boot directory, and I was able to move it back over kernel. Yes, the process and everything is different, but the basic fallback device is still there. > > Submit Bug report. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Jason > Barnes > Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 7:31 PM > To: Jonathan Chen > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: safe mode for kernel.old > > On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Jonathan Chen wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 03:50:40PM -0700, Jason Barnes wrote: > > > > > > Wow -- this is weird, but when I try that the machine locks > up > > > right after loading the old kernel, after the little -/|\ series > finishes. > > > Additionally, safe mode and single-user mode are distinct. Is > there a > > > boot -safe that will boot into SAFE mode? > > > Thanks for your help, > > > > Unlike Windows, there is no SAFE mode. Single user mode is about > as > > safe as it will get. > > Then what's the safe mode in the boot screen in 5.2.1, and > how is > it different than single user mode? Thanks for your patience with > me on > this issue. > > - Jason > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com