From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 6 12: 5:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gw-nl1.origin-it.com (gw-nl1.origin-it.com [193.79.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9EC37B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:05:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.de.origin-it.com (localhost.origin-it.com [127.0.0.1]) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com with ESMTP id VAA04040; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:05:26 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: from smtprelay-de1.origin-it.com(172.16.188.53) by gw-nl1.origin-it.com via mwrap (4.0a) id xma004038; Mon, 6 Nov 00 21:05:26 +0100 Received: from mailhub.de.origin-it.com ([130.143.166.88]) by mail.de.origin-it.com (8.9.3/8.8.5-1.2.2m-19990317) with ESMTP id VAA19565; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:05:25 +0100 (MET) Received: from galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (galaxy.de.cp.philips.com [130.143.166.29]) by mailhub.de.origin-it.com (8.11.1/8.11.1/hmo23oct00) with ESMTP id eA6K5KJ14211; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:05:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Helge.Oldach@de.origin-it.com) Received: (from hmo@localhost) by galaxy.de.cp.philips.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/hmo14aug98) id VAA10139; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:05:19 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200011062005.VAA10139@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com> Subject: Re: Supporting "winmodems" (was: PCI Modems Not Shown As Supported Hardware) In-Reply-To: <20001105114757.A307@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> from Greg Lehey at "Nov 5, 2000 11:47:58 am" To: grog@lemis.com (Greg Lehey) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:05:18 +0100 (MET) Cc: imp@village.org, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Helge Oldach X-Address: ORIGIN Deutschland GmbH, Billstrasse 80, D-20539 Hamburg, Germany X-Phone: +49 40 7886 464, Fax: +49 40 7886 235, Mobile: +49 172 4515513 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey: >On Thursday, 2 November 2000 at 10:04:08 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >> In message <3A013CF9.E1CC203A@abacus.co.uk> Antony T Curtis writes: >>> What about Lucent-based "controllerless" modems? AFAIK, there is >>> support for this chip is in other non-doze platforms. Would anyone >>> know where to start with it? >> No. Those weon't work. IF there are drivers, someone else can port >> them. >I'm afraid it won't be long before these are the only modems available >for laptops. I even accidentally bought on in PCMCIA format a couple of >weeks ago OTOH, softmodems are getting less popular in the mobile phone market. For instance Nokia and Siemens have entirely stepped back from softmodems for mobile handsets in their driver software for Micros~1 based platforms. All newer phones have a built-in "hard" modem that adheres traditional command set conventions. This is probably related to the fact that a hard modem basically comes free because the voice DSP can be used for data as well. Helge To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message