From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 12:17:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF9416A4CE for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA3E743D5A for ; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:17:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 72F64146F9; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:17:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 14:17:38 -0600 (CST) From: Mark Linimon X-X-Sender: linimon@pancho To: brett@lariat.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:17:39 -0000 > Alas, the problem is that the FreeBSD developers do not attach > appropriate value to advocacy. Contributions in the form of advocacy > are virtually unvalued relative to contributions in the form of code. IMHO what you're seeing is not this, but instead, frustration from the developers in feeling that the advocacy discussions less often bear concrete results than code contributions. If you don't think the advocacy efforts are good enough, please come up with something concrete, propose it on -advocacy, and see if you can get volunteers to sign on to help. mcl