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Date:      Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:23:40 -0500
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@mail.iowna.com>
To:        randy // fBSD <freebsd@randys.org>
Cc:        Christopher Farley <chris@northernbrewer.com>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SPAM? (was Re: Antisniffer measures (digest of posts))
Message-ID:  <3A67A52C.AFF71779@mail.iowna.com>
References:  <20010118175346-r01010600-f98bd714@192.168.100.2>

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randy // fBSD wrote:
> 
> On 1/18/01,  Christopher Farley wrote:
> 
> > Bill Moran (wmoran@mail.iowna.com) wrote:
> >
> > > Am I stupid or did the questions@ list just get spammed?
> >
> > It happens all the time. No anti-spam measure is 100% effective.
> >
> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org
> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
> >
> What I hate is that these messages are posted to a newsgroup WITH our email
> addresses...I have been getting spam left and right because of it.

What I hate is that nothing is done about it.
I used to make a regular investigation/complaint of every single piece
of spam I got (It took me about an hour a day) for several months before
I got sick of it.
I actually had one ISP send me a form letter that stated "We have
investigated your complaint and determined that the email did not
originate from our domain" When it was clear in the headers that the
originating SMTP server was one of theirs. I sent a reply back pointing
this out and never heard from them again. I think they reply to all
compaints with the same form letter. Most ISPs will tell you "The `from'
header was forged" ... so what? If I wrote a threatening letter to the
President and signed it with your name & address, you'd have legal
recourse wouldn't you? Wimps.
On the flip side, I did have a few heartening experiences. Twice an ISP
emailed me saying "Thank you, the offending account has been canceled"
Once a sysadmin from some .edu site emailed me back saying, "you're
telling me I'm running an `open relay'. What does that mean and how do I
fix it?" I sent him some information, which he thanked me for.

I just can't believe that anyone actually responds to this junk mail to
make it worth sending to begin with!

-Bill


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