From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 10 14:19:53 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C60016A41A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:19:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from thin.berklix.org (thin.berklix.org [194.246.123.68]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E8B13C461 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from js.berklix.net (p549A738C.dip.t-dialin.net [84.154.115.140]) (authenticated bits=128) by thin.berklix.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l8AEJgsd017539 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:19:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (fire.js.berklix.net [192.168.91.41]) by js.berklix.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l8AEJaQc039112 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:19:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@berklix.org) Received: from fire.js.berklix.net (localhost.js.berklix.net [127.0.0.1]) by fire.js.berklix.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l8AEJZmD058242 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:19:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jhs@fire.js.berklix.net) Message-Id: <200709101419.l8AEJZmD058242@fire.js.berklix.net> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-reply-to: <74423CD8-F9C1-454D-83BB-0114402C2CCC@jump-ing.de> References: <20070904233246.GA2409@epia-2.farid-hajji.net> <043a01c7f202$a7ad0920$f7071b60$@co.uk> <046801c7f229$a4534510$ecf9cf30$@co.uk> <74423CD8-F9C1-454D-83BB-0114402C2CCC@jump-ing.de> Comments: In-reply-to Markus Hitter message dated "Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:14:00 +0200." Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:19:35 +0200 From: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: dump problems X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 14:19:53 -0000 Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 10.09.2007 um 10:14 schrieb Danny Braniss: > > > so here are some questions: > > - is the readers/writer split realy needed now? my guess it was > > put in in the old days to get tapes streaming - which is > > btw, > > what's not working. > > Before you put a lot of efforts into this: Why don't you just let > dump/restore die and put functionality, which is needed and unique to > dump, into tar? Bundling the kitchen sink has worried some since first cries of "Emacs = Bloat": Some believe. Some don't. Religious. > Tar is far more popular, today's world is > multiplatform, today's world is multi-filesystem and if you rewrite > dump, you force admins to rewrite their scripts anyways. > > I've always considered it as sub-optimal to have several tools for > one task. Depend if others agree one definition of task. I wouldnt merge dump & restor either. Principle of least suprise, Maintain portability of people & tools between the many flavours of Unix. -- Julian Stacey. Munich Computer Consultant, BSD Unix C Linux. http://berklix.com Ihr Rauch=mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. Dump cigs 4 snuff.