From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 23 22:14:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A1A1065670 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:14:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1BF8FC17 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbgg13 with SMTP id gg13so906865lbb.13 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=URKg1ZaGBjFLPXvFZG7rDs7NuDJuC7BA850e5dgZ+Wc=; b=0Q8TzorjfTviMs1tYYynrGfDt0NMaI4NmSikkqQrzQd5TOsSo3I04xGwZ1a0vk20pt eQoeBGTrno4Zh21S1Byn1KApnaEtU244SxDcu1gbeyeBnknamsa1aRBoPVAM+6KzZVPH Mfghtuv37wz08xkL0e3joKH+5eDkpdb1Mpq30= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=URKg1ZaGBjFLPXvFZG7rDs7NuDJuC7BA850e5dgZ+Wc=; b=B0/ylxZV/33FTjWmi2loZu13hs6xHVq1fgkuWYVrfCDob9LYLtzPkWOrg7v+MM9G+7 nfXoG7Sz3UN1Az8yrb5qRG7qx9AxVoYxRwJGMhTP03493Fpp4JU36GUisuuq1kz7lfZI bEm3W+vuhRHLfGth9hph+bKk49rjt008Yg0H28hLb/YirDMZ4gNv8ejaGCgCmKyq2q3f /8MTAMYmw4SfZemc1d4oxJu8osG4fjHFIvWr5rFmgyxhXL1YZHXerLKDH2Fk/Pr9z3/H H9+QKSttqUPR8HW40eEXsK476JykcVjzv9dmZFHcpWwZz3Kd/qteQfB4XzRLn6sYMOKu IoSQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.46.49 with SMTP id s17mr3428081lam.17.1345760066511; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.77.33 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 Message-ID: From: Peter Wemm To: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl7QLzQTXQ31W4rYkeBDqYttE8PU0zCCDCTAeV801vGck460bKG+Da35TQ70roPOcRuWdWS Cc: re , freebsd-stable , Ian Smith , Ken Smith Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:14:28 -0000 On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Simon L. B. Nielsen wr= ote: > > On 23 Aug 2012, at 20:41, Peter Wemm wrote: >>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote: >>>> >>>>> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been >>>>> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So >>>>> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC= 1. >>>>> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1. >> * RIght now you can mirror >> svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your laptop, >> and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. You >> can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster >> one. > > Real world got in the way, but they should be ready by Friday or Saturday= , and will be documented in the Handbook. > > On a side note, the svn part of one mirror had to be re-created a few day= s ago as svnsync gets very unhappy if you pull the power while it's running= (we had a PSU die). There seem to be a fair chance your local repository g= ets corrupted enough in that case that svn just gives up. Not that it's a b= ig problem, but is a bit annoying. > > We (clusteradm) are working on getting an EU mirror up, but no timeframe = yet. > >> You can do your own personal svnsync all the way from rev 0, but it >> takes some time. It's more time efficient to start with a seed and >> let it catch up. > > And if people are wondering, some time is really some time. The original = ports mirror took ~24h to create - and that was over the LAN. Don't do that= yourself unless you feel like doing a latency test of your internet connec= tion :-). You'll also find out very quickly how much fsync(2) hurts on a softdep or su+j system. The svn fsfs backend does a fsync multiple times per revision to guarantee its transaction boundaries. There's a reason why I wrote nofsync.ko for these scenarios. Back when I did the first mirror for making a seed, it was the difference between what was shaping up to take about 12 hours vs what ended up taking 25 minutes with nofsync.ko + noatime + full async + no softdep + no softdep+j. --=20 Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell