Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:14:26 -0700 From: Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> To: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" <simon@freebsd.org> Cc: re <re@freebsd.org>, freebsd-stable <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>, Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>, Ken Smith <kensmith@buffalo.edu> Subject: Re: FreeBSD 9.1-RC1 Available... Message-ID: <CAGE5yCqG44yvSeWs=sDyT%2B-3xrZVbJOG_=Mnpt8ZWXrT=gqUjw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org> References: <1345697446.84337.11.camel@neo.cse.buffalo.edu> <20120823225855.U33776@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <1345729674.52121.4.camel@bauer.cse.buffalo.edu> <CAGE5yCox=R2eF2woH12sKRVbhbQDF%2BxPT=d5G-cLHDOv9bVfmw@mail.gmail.com> <3E419978-37B5-434B-BB54-A4C069A9A887@FreeBSD.org>
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On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Simon L. B. Nielsen <simon@freebsd.org> wr=
ote:
>
> On 23 Aug 2012, at 20:41, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 23 Aug 2012 00:50:46 -0400, Ken Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> With both the doc and ports repositories now moved to SVN it has been
>>>>> decided to not export the 9.1 release branch activity to CVS. So
>>>>> csup/cvsup update mechanisms are not available for updating to 9.1-RC=
1.
>>>>> If you would like to use SVN the branch to use is releng/9.1.
>> * RIght now you can mirror
>> svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/{stable/9,release/9.1*,etc} to your laptop,
>> and Simon is setting up a US-east coast and US-west coast mirror. You
>> can easily switch your mirrors on the fly if there's a closer/faster
>> one.
>
> Real world got in the way, but they should be ready by Friday or Saturday=
, and will be documented in the Handbook.
>
> On a side note, the svn part of one mirror had to be re-created a few day=
s ago as svnsync gets very unhappy if you pull the power while it's running=
(we had a PSU die). There seem to be a fair chance your local repository g=
ets corrupted enough in that case that svn just gives up. Not that it's a b=
ig problem, but is a bit annoying.
>
> We (clusteradm) are working on getting an EU mirror up, but no timeframe =
yet.
>
>> You can do your own personal svnsync all the way from rev 0, but it
>> takes some time. It's more time efficient to start with a seed and
>> let it catch up.
>
> And if people are wondering, some time is really some time. The original =
ports mirror took ~24h to create - and that was over the LAN. Don't do that=
yourself unless you feel like doing a latency test of your internet connec=
tion :-).
You'll also find out very quickly how much fsync(2) hurts on a softdep
or su+j system. The svn fsfs backend does a fsync multiple times per
revision to guarantee its transaction boundaries.
There's a reason why I wrote nofsync.ko for these scenarios. Back
when I did the first mirror for making a seed, it was the difference
between what was shaping up to take about 12 hours vs what ended up
taking 25 minutes with nofsync.ko + noatime + full async + no softdep
+ no softdep+j.
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Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV
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