From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 28 09:03:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD55B2F; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:03:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ray@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.dlink.ua (smtp.dlink.ua [193.138.187.146]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147EA2CAC; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from terran (unknown [192.168.99.1]) (Authenticated sender: ray) by smtp.dlink.ua (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 18BA5C495B; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:03:30 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 11:03:36 +0200 From: Aleksandr Rybalko To: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: newcons comming Message-Id: <20131028110336.c702783b550622200035df95@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <526AA106.6090807@freebsd.org> References: <20131025151847.2a1b83de93335040797ceaf1@ddteam.net> <20131025160410.b0571b32440703bd9a18ead9@freebsd.org> <526AA106.6090807@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd9.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Adrian Chadd , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:03:31 -0000 On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 00:49:10 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote: > On 10/25/13 9:29 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > Erm, I don't think this is really ready for -HEAD yet? > > certainly not ready for 10.. > but that doesn't mean it can not be in 10.1 > the existing console will still be there as default, and if this > truely is a big step forward, people will start using it in 10.1 and > it can be in 11 as a default. Yeah! Stability is more important than new features. (and I found one more bug rising on some load :-D) So ray leaving race. :) Thanks for comments! > > I think it's too late for this to be in 10.0 > > > > > > > > -adrian > > > > > > > > On 25 October 2013 06:04, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:18:47 +0300 > >> Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: > >> > >>> Hello fellow hackers! > >>> > >>> I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of > >>> syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of > >>> style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD and 10.0 to > >>> enable shiny new Xorg features, drivers, etc. > >>> > >>> So I ask everyone to look "hard" into that[1] and tell me your opinion. > >>> I expect a lot of opinions, since it have to affect almost all good > >>> guys, as result I have to ask to split "bug reports" into two parts: > >>> 1. Should be done before merge to 10.0; > >>> 2. Can be done later. > >>> > >>> If it possible, please do it(review - report) ASAP. > >>> I have plan to done it that way: > >>> 1. Merge newcons to head (in a few days); > >>> 2. Fix a lot of reported bugs (2 hrs :-D ); > >>> 3. Persuade re@ about we need it in 10.0 (one week, maybe two); > >>> 4. Merge to 10.0; > >>> 5. One year AFK somewhere on Bahamas;^W^W^W^W^W^W^W > >>> 5. Add mouse cut-paste support; > >>> 6. Fix new bugs; > >>> 7. Some drinks. > >>> > >>> What do we will have with newcons: > >>> * (Think it is main) Allow us to switch to fresh Xorg, which require > >>> KMS. > >>> * Graphic devices which can provide framebuffer access can be easily > >>> used as virtual terminals (someone may have pixel-LCD on front of PC > >>> tower, may found it useful :-D ) > >>> * See [2]. > >>> > >>> TODO: > >>> * Lack of key mapping files, everyone can help with that using > >>> instructions on [3]; > >>> * A bit slow (mostly scrolling affected). > >>> * Other bugs :) > >>> * See [2]. > >>> > >>> Thanks! > >>> > >>> [1] - http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/user/ed/newcons/ > >>> [2] - > >>> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/news/status/report-2013-07-2013-09.html#Continuation-of-the-Newcons-Project > >>> [3] - > >>> > >> http://raybsd.blogspot.com/2013/10/newcons-international-keyboard-input.html > >>> Hope you will love newcons! > >>> And maybe me too :) > >>> > >>> WBW > >>> -- > >>> Aleksandr Rybalko > >> Forget to give a patch to HEAD, here it is: > >> > >> > >> http://people.freebsd.org/~ray/newcons/newcons_to_head_r257107_2013-10-25_1542.diff.gz > >> > >> Thanks to all! > >> > >> WBW > >> -- > >> Aleksandr Rybalko > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > -- Aleksandr Rybalko