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Date:      Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:56:23 -0800
From:      Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Lamont Granquist <lamont@scriptkiddie.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Vulpes Velox <v.velox@vvelox.net>
Subject:   Re: LDAP integration
Message-ID:  <45A56107.5050205@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.60.0701101316300.5305@sploit.scriptkiddie.org>
References:  <20070107190616.73dee7b0@vixen42> <45A1DE76.7000201@FreeBSD.org> <20070108185247.2b6e1f69@vixen42> <45A407D1.9030101@FreeBSD.org> <20070109184346.135e0bf4@vixen42> <Pine.GSO.4.60.0701101316300.5305@sploit.scriptkiddie.org>

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Lamont Granquist wrote:

> Why are you doing this in the FreeBSD rc scripts directly?  Why not
> install cfengine and work on making cfengine play better with
> database-driven config?

Indeed. For a "many systems" problem, cfengine is a great tool. I
think the OP is more interested in the "dynamically configured laptop"
problem, which is also an interesting/difficult one, but I don't think
it's a good problem for LDAP to solve. It still feels like "I have
LDAP that I want to use as a solution, so what problem can I point it
at?" to me.

> And if you're looking specifically at the /etc/rc.conf config file, what
> would be more useful would be an /etc/rc.conf.d/ directory.

Good news for you, we already support that. :) I agree that it makes a
great tool for the "many systems" problem, and could reasonably be
used for part of the "dynamic laptop" problem too.

> That gets
> away from the need to tweak and edit the /etc/rc.conf config file with
> multiple inputs tweaking a single file.  Instead you can drop whole
> orthogonal fragments into /etc/rc.conf.d/inetd to manage the inetd
> config which would make it more friendly to radmind-like approaches.  It
> also makes it easier to use with cfengine since orthogonal cfengine
> modules aren't doing editfiles touches to the same files. 

Yes yes yes all around. At one time I suggested that we add support
for /usr/local/etc/rc.conf.d and encourage port authors to drop files
in there, but I didn't get much enthusiasm for it. Perhaps it's time
to revisit that?

> The
> /etc/cron.d directory that (most?) linux distros have is similarly very
> useful to drop in files that contain completely orthogonal config (and
> may be written by entirely different config management tools -- e.g.
> system config management vs. application deployment/management), and the
> /etc/periodic functionality is not flexible enough to cover all cases.

That's not a bad idea, but you'll have to find some other huckleberry
to address it, I've got my hands full at the moment.

Doug

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