From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Aug 18 16:01:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7E109BC65D for ; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pa0-x232.google.com (mail-pa0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73BD2820; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:01:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yaneurabeya@gmail.com) Received: by pacgr6 with SMTP id gr6so135610145pac.2; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=PPT+Qk6NcK29htJ/57bjwWEVpxnguX16tcHn6XJdyiI=; b=d2n+7F6Cs2hhRUgU6WxpGq0ma+/8lUSSPLd9oW4LGej0ZRyaS0kJqVcVfs44Zaa7cr sCiThTsDPgbLF7exe7eiCDqSeODTzMLZyijhd9CmFT8MTt6LyhSnL3KxD3dJcsLRE3Lf Ow3onpIoijvdKdFrg4wyLAW6839wPh883DTKQ8KU42b+Sxpaca9n8eEKIZAkPPSTDpjC WQQSK8phlbnJE5VnBfnpDeoEn8itPMg5xVaqsJpgnjAuZMBbZMG6BBB0XzZTSfAKBCwz QonU7FHH+dMyZyHJxWrt1eE/9WzwpbAAX1KGokYl18Zj3bcaUcCAhPQSsavFYRKaDz+M 5LRA== X-Received: by 10.66.122.4 with SMTP id lo4mr14747393pab.1.1439913691957; Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2601:601:800:126d:7cd4:9fea:5d4e:5ced? ([2601:601:800:126d:7cd4:9fea:5d4e:5ced]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v4sm18598170pdg.79.2015.08.18.09.01.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: r286615: /usr/libexec/ftpd broken! From: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <20150818155755.GG3158@zxy.spb.ru> Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:27 -0700 Cc: Benjamin Kaduk , Marcel Moolenaar , "O. Hartmann" , Ed Schouten , freebsd-current , Marcel Moolenaar Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <20150811074041.6700e943@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20150811104451.2031fff2@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20150818071559.4278987d@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20150818155755.GG3158@zxy.spb.ru> To: Slawa Olhovchenkov X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:01:32 -0000 > On Aug 18, 2015, at 08:57, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >=20 > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 11:38:47AM -0400, Benjamin Kaduk wrote: >=20 >> On Tue, 18 Aug 2015, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: >>=20 >>>> On Aug 17, 2015, at 10:15 PM, O. Hartmann = wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> Port security/heimdal installs its own ftpd with its appropriate = manpages. >>>=20 >>> Ugh :-( >>=20 >> I would argue that heimdal should not be in the business of supplying = an >> ftpd. Kerberos-enabled ftp basically does not offer any advantages = over >> scp. >=20 > OPENSSH_NONE_CIPHER is OFF by default, i.e. ftp can give more speed. More pragmatically, there are less ssh clients (openssh or bust really), = whereas there are more ftp clients (Firefox, Chrome, ftp(1), python, = etc). Cheers, -NGie