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To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@freefall.FreeBSD.org>
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Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/ee - Imported sources 
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 03:00:44 +0200
From: "Julian Stacey <jhs@freebsd.org>" <jhs@vector.eikon.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de>
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Jordan,
Ref. Easy Editor
> It's also much SMALLER than vi 

Our /usr/bin/vi is a 233K demand paged dynamically linked executable.

There are other vi like editors around much smaller than vi
I used to use elvis & stevie on minix & dos (& ported one to a few OS's)
I recall .exe's of about 50 to 100K; a dos vi.exe is still 96K, runs on a
DOS 8086.

You don't say if EE supports vi style interface ?
If it merely supports emacs functionality ... so what ?
Least suprise, dictates we offer the standard Unix editor interface.	

> since tossing a novice into vi with no help or clue as
> to what the key bindings are is both cruel and in violation of the
> Hague Convention. 

We are a BSD OS, not a DOS Weenie OS, if the user doesnt understand VI,
that's his problem not ours, clueless DOSers are of debatable benefit,
`Least suprise' requires we offer a vi like interface.

PS I looked to see what old sources I have here:
	stevie-1.15src+3.45bin.tar.gz  stevie-3.10+jhs.tar.gz 
	gnu/generic/elvis-1.7.tar.gz
but ive not tried porting them to this (FreeBSD) OS (I guess I could if needed)

Julian S