From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 26 13:44:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691E737B401 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.des.no (37.80-203-228.nextgentel.com [80.203.228.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D39143FBF for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 13:44:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: by smtp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 666) id 5C8B69595F; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:44:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dwp.des.no (dwp.des.no [10.0.0.4]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3341C9595E; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:44:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: by dwp.des.no (Postfix, from userid 2602) id EE93DB823; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:44:05 +0200 (CEST) To: "Marc G. Fournier" References: <4.3.2.7.2.20030625214311.00e5e240@localhost> <20030626010357.J508@hub.org> <20030626110336.GW34365@iconoplex.co.uk> <20030626172910.N98477@hub.org> From: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?iso-8859-1?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 22:44:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20030626172910.N98477@hub.org> (Marc G. Fournier's message of "Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:32:37 -0300 (ADT)") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.090024 (Oort Gnus v0.24) Emacs/21.2 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=8.0 tests=EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES, REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_GNUS_UA version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: FreeBSD Chat cc: Michael Carr Subject: Re: RMS says: "Use BSD, for goodness sake!" X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 20:44:09 -0000 "Marc G. Fournier" writes: > Is there anything at the operating system level that uses/requires bc, or > could it be moved to ports ... ? Like, I use it, but its a command line > tool, not something I've seen used in scripts ... We care about POSIX. > > > groff - look at alternate doc formatting? > > Not bloody likely, unless you volunteer to convert all the man pages > > (including translations). > What was used before groff? there was an nroff and troff before groff, > no? or is it just that there are alot of 'groff-isms' that we're using in > the man pages? Did we ever use anything else than groff?=20=20 > > > less - re-implementable quite quickly > > You might be surprised... > ... but any reason why its part of hte main system instead of just put > into ports? POSIX requires more(1) (which in FreeBSD is a hard link to less(1)), and it's not under GPL anyway (see /usr/src/contrib/less/LICENSE) > > > man - could be re-implemented based on file format information known > > This is a SMOP. > SMOP? *raised eyebrow* Small Matter Of Programming (though there are some locale issues) DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav - des@des.no