From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 6 17:51:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (smtppop1pub.gte.net [206.46.170.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CA037B720 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:51:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Received: from gte.net (evrtwa1-ar4-4-34-145-186.dsl.gtei.net [4.34.145.186]) by smtppop1pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id TAA67976988 Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:45:02 -0600 (CST) Received: (from res03db2@localhost) by gte.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA46571; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:51:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from res03db2@gte.net) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:51:30 -0800 From: Robert Clark To: Mike Meyer Cc: Brett Glass , Rahul Siddharthan , "Victor R. Cardona" , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again Message-ID: <20010306175130.B46410@darkstar.gte.net> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010305114235.046da630@localhost> <20010305200017.D80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305123951.04604b20@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306180433.00d417c0@localhost> <15013.35826.538113.631730@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <15013.35826.538113.631730@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:16:34PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:16:34PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > Brett Glass types: > > At 05:18 PM 3/6/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > > >The bottom line is that every time I've seen you enter into such a > > >debate, you inevitably wind up attacking Stallman. > > Understanding motivations is important. When you're analyzing or > > reverse-engineering a piece of computer code, it helps to know > > what the author intended to do. The same is true of Stallman's > > actions and writings. > > I answered that one in the very first message in the thread: > > While trying to understand other peoples motivations is generally a > good idea, discussing them - especially in such negative terms - > isn't. > > Accusations of hatred, hidden agendas, and similar things belong in > conspiracy theory debates, not rational debate. Whether or not they > are true isn't really relevant - only a fool would discount an idea > based only on the source. There is the problem. I'm on freebsd-chat, not freebsd-rational-debate. [RC] > > -- > Mike Meyer http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ > Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message