From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 26 22:13:49 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E2A106564A; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:13:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanegomi@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wy0-f182.google.com (mail-wy0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3198FC16; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so1441746wyf.13 for ; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:13:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OqQWjwhieeOxG0tgkjHSgMgB1WX2LeTIiH7l6+rOqjM=; b=Y/pr9eMuW1m93OnfkXfN2n346DuA9tOBN3MZ4jIzDfF8vDlxes9QnhR5ddsmDAvkgw X7Ee/A8nS2PruEBYQvd29qHq7K+FQeCp2naMB5Qg5WFyzso56eiA6GiaQbAVTurAFCEc 4qkgPRHmjZu0i6gFTiaPWxnA+jqspPnNaMOX8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kfwYjc5a55pUbev2fKzA9voe3cSv7WmbE+S3mb5J0kDF7KhO60o6acE2KpmQGFanwl pVUceErpKO7B/5azEnkcizYG4LYm/8E/g9wmbCz3bjJ3QejXTK1I/9mixhAvkpmHAz0y 5l5sJM2VicjruDRx4iyMqyPsZk1lw7oxi4IDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.29.71 with SMTP id h49mr1033968wea.46.1296080027605; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.254.226 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:13:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201101262000.p0QK0fGT005251@fire.js.berklix.net> References: <20110125140517.GA74156@freebsd.org> <201101262000.p0QK0fGT005251@fire.js.berklix.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:13:47 -0800 Message-ID: From: Garrett Cooper To: "Julian H. Stacey" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: db@db.net, perryh@pluto.rain.com, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, ivoras@freebsd.org, Giorgos Keramidas , Alexander Best Subject: Re: Why not give git a try? (was "Re: [head tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64") X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 22:13:49 -0000 On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Hi, > Alex >> order to build the system. the VCS however is not part of the build tool= chain >> however (except 'make update' maybe). > > Some good points, =A0but also remember make release also uses cvs > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 grep CVS /usr/src/release/Makefile For convenience reasons, just like cdrtools exists purely for utility in release as well. As long as the license doesn't say "[if you use our tool,] ur srcs are ours", then I don't see why license matters here. As and long as we package the source with the OS and all of our changes, or provide the ability to install it via a port, we should be ok. clang, llvm, compiler_rt, etc are a different can of worms as the GPLv2 // LGPLv2 is viral and says "[if you use our tool with your srcs,] ur srcs have to be open" (paraphrased of course), which doesn't work for companies who have proprietary IP. Thanks, -Garrett PS IANAL.